Reference Not Updating

ID:113325
 
May 15 2011, 6:27 pm (Edited on Sep 3 2011, 11:45 pm)
Not a bug
BYOND Version:482
Operating System:Windows 7 Pro 64-bit
Web Browser:Firefox 3.5.2
Applies to:Dream Maker
Status: Not a bug
This is not a bug. It may be an incorrect use of syntax or a limitation in the software. For further discussion on the matter, please consult the BYOND Developer forums.
Duplicates:id:223186
Descriptive Problem Summary:
The reference in Dream Maker (F1) does not show the newer features. (Such as the image override var and the new features of control_freak.)

Despite these features not being anywhere in the reference, I am still able to use them (and they work) in my code.

Previously, I just thought the reference is never updated, but it came to my attention that these things might actually have reference entries.

Numbered Steps to Reproduce Problem:
1. Open a project in Dream Daemon
2. Press F1
3. In the Search tab, search "image override" or "control_freak"
4. Notice that there is no information on the updated features.

Code Snippet (if applicable) to Reproduce Problem:











Expected Results:

I can search the reference for newly updated features instead of scanning through the release notes of every build.



Actual Results:

I only see the old (outdated) reference entries.



Does the problem occur:

Every time? Or how often? Always.

In other games? N/A

In other user accounts? Haven't tested

On other computers? Other people don't have this, but I haven't tested on other computers.

DarkCampaigner obviously doesn't have this problem as noted in this topic: http://www.byond.com/developer/forum/?id=781418



When does the problem NOT occur?

UPDATE

If I delete the following folder:

C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files (x86)\BYOND\help\ref

Then the problem is completely solved.





Did the problem NOT occur in any earlier versions? If so, what was the last version that worked? I've had this problem for several versions back. I know that at least.





I've tried clearing my BYOND cache, and also uninstalling BYOND and reinstalling to no avail.



I also uninstalled, and then deleted the BYOND folder, both in Program Files and in my Documents, and then reinstalled and the problem is still there.





Workarounds:

Using the contents.html in the BYOND\help\ref folder allows me to see the updated reference entries. (But not as easily or as accessible.)



    


      





	



	

	












































  

  


































	
	
#1 May 15 2011, 7:15 pm












  

  

  





I have always had this problem. =(



OS: Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit





  





	




	












































  

  


































	
	
#2 May 16 2011, 6:49 am












  

  

  





I can see the updated HTML files in my ref directory and open them in a browser. They just aren't accessible from Dream Maker.



Could it be the .chm files? The parent help directory says dreammaker.chm is from 7/17/2008.





  





	




	












































  

  


































	
	
#3 May 16 2011, 9:05 am












  

  

  





Hey, yeah, same for me.

It says dreammaker.chm (compiled html) is from 7/17/2008.

I can see the updated reference through the browser as well.

I never knew to check that folder.

It can't be that hard to make a new compiled html, can it?

I used to be required to make them for every assignment in a class I was taking.

(For code documentation.)





  





	




	












































  

  


































	
	
#4 May 16 2011, 9:07 am












  

  

  





Actually, I checked that file, and it's not a code reference, it's more of a how-to use Dream Maker. (Which means there's no reason to update it.)





  





	




	












































  

  


































	
	
#5 May 16 2011, 4:24 pm












  

  

  





How you updated might be relevant to this bug report..It did not occur in a new install to byond on my win7 x64 but did occur in my win7 x64 laptop. Laptop was updated though pager.





  





	




	












































  

  


































	
	
#6 May 16 2011, 4:38 pm












  

  

  





I was thinking maybe due to their being 2 "program files" directories (Program Files, Program Files x86) on x64 machines, that it is most likely trying to update the incorrect file?



Naokohiro, the files are located here:

C:\Program Files (x86)\BYOND\help\ref





  





	




	












































  

  


































	
	
#7 May 17 2011, 8:54 am












  

  

  





It probably is caused by already having installed BYOND on the computer. However, I tried completely uninstalling it, and even deleting the C:\Program Files (x86)\BYOND folder completely and then installing it using the BYOND installer, and I still have the issue.



And yes, I knew the reference was located at C:\Program Files (x86)\BYOND\help\ref.





  





	




	












































  

  


































	
	
#8 May 17 2011, 12:07 pm












  

  

  





Following Lummox JR's advice, I copied the help folder from the zip file to the same folder that contains the old files:



C:\Program Files (x86)\BYOND



There has been no change. It doesn't seem to be the files. (As a matter of fact, one of the files from the zip was read as being older.) There appears to be some sort of operating system cache that BYOND is not affecting.





  





	




	












































  

  


































	
	
#9 May 17 2011, 6:23 pm












  

  

  





You are coping from the zip: byond/help/ref/info.htm & contents.htm to your C:\Program Files (x86)\BYOND\help\ref?



I just pulled up the zip and see 5/6/11 for the dates. I also installed these files and dream maker updated.





  





	




	












































  

  


































	
	
#10 May 17 2011, 11:19 pm












  

  

  





I found the cache in a hidden directory. The files were from 2008. It appears the method of storage changed since then. I deleted the BYOND folder and it was not cached again. Dream Maker is giving me the correct results now. =)



Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit:



C:\Users\[account name]\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files (x86)





  





	




	












































  

  


































	
	
#11 May 19 2011, 7:15 pm












  

  

  





Thank you, ACWraith!

I deleted the ref folder from the place you mentioned, and the problem is solved!

I checked the AppData\Local folder before, but there were so many folders in there, I didn't know where to begin.

I guess I just didn't look hard enough.





  





	




	












































  

  


































	
	
#12 Sep 2 2011, 7:01 pm












  

  

  





I had this bug again when I installed 490 (beta). I had to delete the folder again.

Are you sure this should just be labeled as 'not a bug?'





  





	




	












































  

  


































	
	
#13 Sep 4 2011, 10:00 am












  

  

  





It's not a bug; it is however something in Windows Vista/7 that we'll have to figure out how to start working around.



In the meantime I found a more permanent workaround:



http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/ add-take-ownership-to-explorer-right-click-menu-in-vista/



Install the Take Ownership registry script (I haven't tried this so take a look at its contents before you import it), right-click on C:\Program Files\BYOND (or wherever it's installed), and use the new option to take ownership of the directory. This turns off Windows' idiotic UAC and VirtualStore feature, which should make future updates run properly. Be sure to also delete the accompanying VirtualStore dir.





  





	




	












































  

  


































	
	
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Descriptive Problem Summary:

Page missing from reference (maptext)



Numbered Steps to Reproduce Problem:

Install BYOND.



Does the problem occur:

Every time



When does the problem NOT occur?

Never, in my case.



Did the problem NOT occur in any earlier versions? If so, what was the last version that worked? At one point I was sure the maptext page was in my reference, but one day when I finally went to start reading about maptext, it suddenly.. wasn't there? I've updated byond a few times since then, and before posting this topic I updated it, then reinstalled it, installed it again, and repeated another time.



One of the times I made sure to go in and delete the reference before I installed it, making sure nothing old was retained if it was possible.



I made sure to get the download directly from BYOND, and its 496.1145



I even checked the Online Reference, under atom > vars; Still no maptext. I have no idea why I can't find this.



Workarounds:

None that I know.







  





	




	












































  

  


































	
	
#15 Jul 23 2012, 4:50 pm




	
In response to Kitsueki (#14)










  

  

  





I had an issue with the maptext reference pages not appearing too. Maybe this will help?





  





	




	












































  

  


































	
	
#16 Jul 23 2012, 4:51 pm




	
In response to Kitsueki (#14)