Programmer Position - Minimum of $200 a month

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Nov 10 2011, 6:31 pm (Edited on Nov 10 2011, 6:45 pm)
Keywords: 100th, ad, programmer
Project Description



Eternia: Prologue is an action oriented ORPG where players dedicate themselves to eradicating Yokai, demonic monsters that plague the lands, or align with them in a war of Exorcists and Occultists. Two rival clans that wield magical powers. You can view the hub here and I also have a demo of the game that can be hosted to show how much is complete so far.


Project Goal

I want to release an entertaining, free to play ORPG, that will incorporate a subscription system which will generate funds to commission new art, programming, and possibly even entire projects in the future. A self-sustaining project that has the potential to garner enough income to start new games of similar quality.


Skills Needed

I'm looking for an intermediate programmer in finishing the remaining features so we're able to release the game and to continue updating it once it's released. You'll need a solid grasp of the DM language and at least 10 hours a week to spare for working on the code.

I can't stress this enough, but unless you are absolutely serious about committing yourself to the project, please do not apply. I haven't had the greatest of experiences with programmers on BYOND so I would rather avoid any future complications that slow down the project. My apologies if this comes off as rude/clumsy or off-topic.


Compensation

Each month we will agree on a feature list and a price for the features. Upon completion of the features payment will be sent through PayPal. I'm looking at around $200 a month but this can be increased depending on the amount of time you have to code.


Contact Information

My email and MSN: method_acting@live.co.uk

I would prefer that emails were sent instead of friend requests, but either is fine. If sending an email, please attach samples of your work and a summary of your experience level using the DM language.
#1 Nov 10 2011, 6:50 pm
thats ridiculous i dont see any reason why you cant get unrecompensed help
#2 Nov 10 2011, 6:54 pm
Towers wrote:
thats ridiculous i dont see any reason why you cant get unrecompensed help

I most likely could but I'm fine with paying. Not only does it help motivate the programmer, the applicants also tend to be more serious and experienced.
#3 Nov 10 2011, 7:06 pm
Most programmers who would be able to do a good enough job for this game are generally adults who need money, and don't have a ton of free time.

#4 Nov 10 2011, 8:50 pm
Writing A New One wrote:
Towers wrote:
thats ridiculous i dont see any reason why you cant get unrecompensed help

I most likely could but I'm fine with paying. Not only does it help motivate the programmer, the applicants also tend to be more serious and experienced.

motivation isn't a requisite; people generally use it as a reason to complain
you're likely just going to waste your money
my advice is a real programmer isn't in it for a money, but because they enjoy doing it

have fun
#5 Nov 10 2011, 8:54 pm
They may enjoy doing it, but that still doesn't mean they want to spend hours of their day making you a game when they could be investing it in something more productive. The money makes up for that time.
#6 Nov 10 2011, 8:54 pm
Towers wrote:
Writing A New One wrote:
Towers wrote:
thats ridiculous i dont see any reason why you cant get unrecompensed help

I most likely could but I'm fine with paying. Not only does it help motivate the programmer, the applicants also tend to be more serious and experienced.

motivation isn't a requisite; people generally use it as a reason to complain
you're likely just going to waste your money
my advice is a real programmer isn't in it for a money, but because they enjoy doing it

have fun

I'm not going to say what I really want to say, because I don't want to start a flame war on WANO's blog, but Seriously, I'm sick of the attitude that Programmers need to work for free. We worked hard to know what we know, so it's insulting as hell for you to claim any of us aren't "real" programmers for not dedicating a nonsignificant amount of time to work on someone else's project.
#7 Nov 10 2011, 9:23 pm
Would be nice of you to get on MSN. However ill send you an e-mail.
#8 Nov 10 2011, 9:35 pm
You know, it would probably be easier for you to learn how to code yourself and work on the game on your own, then it would be for you to find someone interested and skilled enough to work on this game. I mean, this is like the 6th (or more) time you have requested help and we continuously see the same thing. Not much seems to actually be happening with the game besides the release date being pushed back further and the "demo" server showing up randomly for pretty much no reason at this point.

I don't mean for this to sound harsh, but you haven't had much luck anyway, so you might have better luck just doing it yourself. Paying someone to tutor you in DM might be faster and easier so you can do the work yourself. Or just take the time to learn it yourself and it will be free. Might take longer, but it's not like we haven't been waiting a long time anyway.
#9 Nov 10 2011, 9:38 pm
There's absolutely no reason he shouldn't be able to get a quality programmer if he's paying for it. Hell, I'd do it if I had any semblance of free time.
#10 Nov 10 2011, 9:41 pm
Ummm.... There is no reason he shouldn't be able to get a quality programmer, you're right... And yet... After like how many months? He still hasn't (Or he has found a few that end up having to stop or quit for various reasons leaving the game unfinished still). So.... Yeah.... I think my point is still valid.
#11 Nov 10 2011, 9:50 pm
I've sent you an email and added you on MSN.
#12 Nov 10 2011, 11:33 pm
I'll get back to all of the emails after college today.
#13 Nov 11 2011, 5:33 am
Techgamer wrote:
There's absolutely no reason he shouldn't be able to get a quality programmer if he's paying for it. Hell, I'd do it if I had any semblance of free time.

There is, however, a difference between paying someone, and paying someone well.
#14 Nov 11 2011, 7:25 am
The money is meaningless as compensation. $200 a month for 10 hours a week is about $5 an hour - that's peanuts! If you need the money you can do much better (you'd make more money at a fast food joint in 2-4 days of work). If you think that being paid peanuts is fair compensation for your programming, that suggests that your programming is bad.

Being capable of paying the programmer shows the potential programmers that he's serious about this project - he's not some 11 year old who wants you to code his game, he has $200 riding on this. It means very little to receive $200 as compensation, but it means a lot to know that WANO is willing to put $200/month into the success of this project.
#15 Nov 11 2011, 9:55 am
Not to mention getting 200$ for making new character classes or spells sounds like a fun way to spend your free time!
#16 Nov 11 2011, 10:05 am
Actually, I make way more than that in a week. =|
#17 Nov 11 2011, 11:09 am
Honestly if you're willing to pay this much for someone on BYOND to code your game, consider not using BYOND.
#18 Nov 11 2011, 12:43 pm
So it's $200 in peanuts? :D

I do, however, think that you would have better results finding someone to teach you DM and you work on the project yourself.
#19 Nov 11 2011, 12:59 pm
F0lak wrote:
So it's $200 in peanuts? :D

I do, however, think that you would have better results finding someone to teach you DM and you work on the project yourself.

Exactly my point!
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