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Hey guys, I've had a lot of fun iconning and programming on Byond, but I realized that my passion is more so in single player games. I know byond can somehow do those, but I really want to start working on actual games that isn't as so much attached to a program people have to download. I was wondering if anyone had any knowledge of programming outside of Byond and could tell me which coding languages and/or programs were similar to Byonds. I believe someone told me Byond's was basic and that it's similar to a lot of other ones just with certain terms and such named differently. I know that it will be a lot of work, but I hope to find someone close to Byond so that the transfer to it can be a bit smoother and less impossible. Thank you guys!
Im interested in this as well but for multiplayer games.
Game Maker Studio 2 is pretty cool, and Unreal 4 has a really nice 2D engine.
In response to Ter13
Are you able to make standalone games with Game Maker Studio 2? Like games that don't rely on a certain system to play like Byond has.
C++ is closest to DM imo.

You can try unity, but that may be a bit more complex than you want.

There's tons of good alternatives out there though.

You may want to focus on learning and effectively using C# and C++ first.

Then pick something you enjoy working with / in -- such as game maker, unity or unreal, etc.

It really just depends on you, there's tons of other options out there as well.
Yes. But BYOND does also have a standalone.
DM to c++ is a huge jump
No love for HTM5 and JavaScript?
In response to Zagros5000
Zagros5000 wrote:
DM to c++ is a huge jump

Is it really?
In response to Yukay Karyuu
Yukay Karyuu wrote:
Zagros5000 wrote:
DM to c++ is a huge jump

Is it really?

C++ is a massive 30 year hodgepodge of competing standards and programming ideologies. It's got a lot of grunt power, but there's also a lot of bloat and kludge you need to learn to avoid.
C++ is closest to DM in that the BYOND suite itself is written in C++. If you've only ever used BYOND, you might not have the best time jumping straight into a low level language.

@OP: Have you seen Feed? Nother? NEStalgia? EPOCH? Two of these games are single player, two are multiplayer. None of them require the BYOND client to run. I'm not sure why so many people still think that all BYOND games require DreamSeeker to play, but it is not the case anymore.

That said, I'd agree with Ter on GMS2 as an alternative. I've heard good things and it seems like a nice, simple jumping off point for new programmers. Personally, I'm a huge fan of Unity / Unity 2D and DM to C# is a pretty easy jump to make.
So for a person like me, whose only familiar with DM coding but wants to also make a jump into something more mainstream/professional- what would you guys recommend is the EASIEST jump?

So far;

1 vote for C#
Lets Vote! to make this easier

https://strawpoll.com/k3sad2e1
c#
C# is definately the easiest transition IMO.

No love for JavaScript here. :(
In response to DistantWorld101
DistantWorld101 wrote:
Lets Vote! to make this easier

https://strawpoll.com/k3sad2e1

lmao two of those are ides and two are programming languages

Unity uses C#, UE used to use their own proprietary language called UnrealScript and is now moving to C++, GameMaker Studios uses a proprietary language called GameMaker Language (why did you list Unreal and GMS together? they're in no way related), and... the other two are programming languages.
In response to Unwanted4Murder
Unwanted4Murder wrote:
DistantWorld101 wrote:
Lets Vote! to make this easier

https://strawpoll.com/k3sad2e1

lmao two of those are ides and two are programming languages

Unity uses C#, UE used to use their own proprietary language called UnrealScript and is now moving to C++, GameMaker Studios uses a proprietary language called GameMaker Language (why did you list Unreal and GMS together? they're in no way related), and... the other two are programming languages.

I dind't want to make a long poll and you can leave a comment on the poll, on why you voted such vote, the poll is just to give such users a general IDEA on where to go.

Example you can vote Game Maker / Unreal then comment Game Maker cause you think Game Maker is better then Unreal.
roblox developers might have a good life for you,' it involves scripting and protruding Lego pieces. Instant win!
In response to Yukay Karyuu
Yukay Karyuu wrote:
So for a person like me, whose only familiar with DM coding but wants to also make a jump into something more mainstream/professional- what would you guys recommend is the EASIEST jump?

Python! \o/
https://wiki.python.org/moin/GameProgramming
https://inventwithpython.com/makinggames.pdf
https://pythonprogramming.net/pygame-python-3-part-1-intro/
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Python_Programming/ Game_Programming_in_Python
https://www.gamedesigning.org/learn/python/ (5 best python game development tutorials)
https://www.raywenderlich.com/24252/ beginning-game-programming-for-teens-with-python

...or DM
---or Javascript
In response to digitalmouse
Python is great,but I feel JavaScript might be the way forward in terms of browser based games anyway.

Unity would be the way forward for multiple devices eg PC, console and mobile.
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