I have been really getting sick and tired of a normal windows computer as of late and I just saw a new ads on TV for the new iMac machines (is that how they spell it?).
They look fantastic and while they might not be the buffest machine on the market, they are pretty powerful, for their price.
That and the fact that there is most likely far less viruses for a Mac machine, I have been thinking about converting. I went online and also did a quick look for Mac games and was surprised to find most if not all of the games I like to play were already ported over to the Mac.
If i wanted to continue to use BYOND, I could simply install a virtual pc on my Mac and use it like that.
I am still debaiting if I am going to do it or not, but right now, they look good, they sound good and the price is pretty good.
Any thoughts on the Mac computer line?
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 Aug 16 2007, 4:02 pm
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I don't really know by what you mean with the limited games, that at one point may have been true, but I have been looking around and they have a much larger verity then they once had. Doom 3, World of Warcraft, Diablo 2, Quake 4 and other games are on that list. So they don't seem to be doing too badly on games.
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They are getting better with that, no doubt about it, but the fact still remains that the PC still has a ton more games than the Mac. If possible, get a computer to run Mac and one to run Windows, or dual boot if you can. Virtual machines suck.
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Revenant Jesus wrote:
I don't really know by what you mean with the limited games, that at one point may have been true, but I have been looking around and they have a much larger verity then they once had. Doom 3, World of Warcraft, Diablo 2, Quake 4 and other games are on that list. So they don't seem to be doing too badly on games. (Mac user here.)o.O, it is very limited, but if most of the games you like are already here go for it. Just make sure you dont buy one of the older PowerBook Pc's the year they stop developing them and convert to Intel Macs like I did *cries*. Otherwise you'll be forced to use virutal pc which is horrible and should be taken off the download page and replaced with better alternative suggestions. Virtual Pc slows down your computer like crazy to the point where you can barely use it. If your comp is real jacked you might be able to run Windows full speed...And someone should mention the program has stopped being supported. Anyway now days, all the new macs bought are Intel (they use these chips) now, they come with duel processing technology. All you'd have to do is go to download.com and download a program called Boot Camp which litterally is windows but you'd have to reboot to switch between programs. (If you get the new Leopard operating system Boot Camp is already on your dock). Then theres a shitload of emulators like Virtual Pc that run Windows on a seperate window with no reboots required. The best currently is Parallels which you'd have to pay to use. Then I hear about some new program doing quite well called VMware that will probably pass it come release. http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=28 Be sure to read that switchers guide at the top. | |
CaptFalcon33035 wrote:
MAc hardware is, and this is just my opinion, very overpriced. If you want a basic machine without a lot of extras, then yes, they are overpriced. The thing is that Apple throws everything into their machines, when a lot of those same components are either optional or simply unavailable on more affordable PC models. Wireless networking, bluetooth, camera, FireWire, gigabit ethernet, optical audio I/O, etc. Make all that stuff optional and I guarantee the base price is much more in line with basic PCs. Problem is, you can't. So to have a fair price comparison, you have to configure a PC with all the stuff that comes standard with a Mac. And it turns out that they are quite competitive with major PC brands when you do that. But you have to weigh whether you would normally buy all that extra stuff with a PC, and for most people probably not. So it becomes a question of whether the software is worth the premium for the extra hardware you might never use. So the price myth is half right these days. Unfortunately it seems that Apple isn't interested in selling a sub-$500 minitower that runs OS X. They could do it easily, making it a solid machine, but it would undermine their image and lower their profit margins. Too bad. You can't really argue with billions of dollars in sales, though. They don't ship with mice that right-click Please join the year 2007 with the rest of us. ;) The mouse that ships with all desktop Macs does right click, middle click, some kind of crazy squeeze thing, and both vertical and horizontal scrolling. I don't own one, but from playing with it in a store, I don't care for it much. A $15 Logitech scroll wheel mouse is all I need. Laptops have 2-finger right-click, which I find to be much nicer than contorting my hand depending on how the manufacturer laid out the buttons. They don't letter their drives. Always a plus in my book. Drive letters are so... 1980. Limited number of games. Another plus. ;) Those friggin' Mac fanboys They suck. I visit a few Mac sites out of interest in the platform, and I swear I spend half of my time fighting the overzealous fanboyism. They really do think Steve Jobs is their god, Macs are infallible (hardly!), and Apple can do no wrong. They really do a disservice to those who happen to like the platform for its technical merits. If the problem still exists, then I hate those random shutdowns, unresponsiveness, crashing, failing to boot, etc... I hear problems of that sort are not as common as they once were. As with Windows or Linux, that tends to be an indicator of bad hardware, or maybe the fact that you installed some crappy program that's mucking around deep in the system where it shouldn't be. Not that it's perfect. Hell no. Don't listen to the fanboys who would tell you it is. But overall, it is a good, flashy system and recent versions have become way more stable. If "recent" means since 2001, yeah. We won't talk about the dark ages before that. They are getting better with that, no doubt about it, but the fact still remains that the PC still has a ton more games than the Mac. Except when you consider that every new Mac runs Windows. If possible, get a computer to run Mac and one to run Windows, or dual boot if you can. Virtual machines suck. No, virtual machines rock.
The list goes on. The only reason to dual boot is if you have a very specific requirement that can't be satisfied in the virtual environment. With recent 3-d acceleration support, that list is quickly shrinking. Virtualization rocks. | |
Mike H wrote:
Please join the year 2007 with the rest of us. ;) The mouse that ships with all desktop Macs does right click, middle click, some kind of crazy squeeze thing, and both vertical and horizontal scrolling. I don't own one, but from playing with it in a store, I don't care for it much. A $15 Logitech scroll wheel mouse is all I need. lmao, Mighty Mouse? That is the best name for a mouse since ever. It looks really cool, but it looks like it can be really sensitive, like those iPod wheel things that I never really got used to. If "recent" means since 2001, yeah. We won't talk about the dark ages before that. Well, 6 years out of 20 or so is recent by comparison. :D Everything runs at native speed, give or take a percent or two. No kidding? I heard they ran a lot slower than native installs, which is all I really cared about. I didn't think it'd be a good idea to run of a virtual machine because of limited capability or serious loss of speed, but it seems as though those are not valid claims. | |
CaptFalcon33035 wrote:
No kidding? I heard they ran a lot slower than native installs, which is all I really cared about. I didn't think it'd be a good idea to run of a virtual machine because of limited capability or serious loss of speed, but it seems as though those are not valid claims. Yeah, that's kinda an outdated. I've made two posts on two different companies on my blog recently. VMWare has developed a way to run your bootcamp install in a VM. So you can have 100% speed when you need it, but you can run in a VM when you don't need 100% speed. Parallels (another VM company) allows you to run full 3d games, at near the native speed. Parallels also allows you to take windows out of the VM and interlace them into your Mac desktop, they don't even feel like they are in a VM. | |
Things I don't like about the Mac include:
That stupid dock
-I wish the Mac had a taskbar for active programs.
They don't ship with mice that right-click
They don't letter their drives.
Limited number of games.
Those friggin' Mac fanboys
If the problem still exists, then I hate those random shutdowns, unresponsiveness, crashing, failing to boot, etc... I hear problems of that sort are not as common as they once were.
But overall, it is a good, flashy system and recent versions have become way more stable.