I know some of you won't like this thread. I also know it has the potential to be volatile. Please be polite and civil whilst discussing it.
Note: This is all opinionated to what I think, so please do not take this as facts. None of these are based on actual statistics of how developers leave or don't choose byond. Any posts assuming such things will be reported to be removed.
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My Opinion (Rant) on why Byond barely gets new developers:
Byond not getting new developers isn't anything new, but I don't think most of us that lurk around on the forums quite know the real reason.
Yes, you might as well just blame it on the countless rips and say it scares away people seeing the same game. Seriously, get real. I'm not saying anime rips benefit us, I'm saying that they are not the real reasons to us not getting new developers.
Now that I've knocked you guys into reality with a short and simple line of logic, we need to explain what this "real reason" I speak of actually is. It's quite simple, and in fact, it happens almost countless times.
I believe the reasons that we don't get any new developers is because most of us are egotistical pricks with a judgemental tone against people who simply like anime. Don't deny it, because we all do it. I used to have another username, and it implied I liked the anime Naruto, and I also had the game "Storm2Byond" which was considered a complete rip at the time. Then I remade and created this "iObject" with the same game name and same gameplay with the same source, so IT MUST BE ORIGINAL.
Well then, what happened there you might ask? The fact that I implied simply that I liked naruto in my username clearly stated to all the "friendly" users that I liked naruto, which opened me up to being accused of ripping. (On a side note, REALLY? You guys REALLY think I ripped a sidescroller naruto game and just changed up every single icon including the fact that the gameplay is nothing like the only other two naruto games that were sidescroller? Again, we all need to just get real and deal with the fact that this is how unfair we are treating people.)
Now then, getting that off of my back, it's time for the second reason. Not only do we bias based on liking anime, but we bias on how new they are.
If they don't have a previous creation THEY HAVE TO BE A RIPPER!!! DON'T LEND HELP!!!!!!!! HE WANTS TO STEAL CODE OMFG AOSTNHJTGKLNHDLKFGHDATKGLAHTL
I noticed a few posts where a simple new user had asked for legitimate help on programming in the developer help section, but he had not gotten the friendly help the rest of us developers get. What did he get? He was bombarded with raging comments claiming shocking and surprising responses such as: "Why would I want to give code to a ripper?" and "Figure it out yourself. Use that small thing in your head called a brain."
Hopefully we all have an understanding of some of the reasons we don't get new developers, right? There's more.
Now, for what most of you devs have been waiting for. Anime fans on this forum tend to take their opinions too far. This means they take opinions and "make them facts" if you get my drift. Such things cause major arguments and fights on the forums that can demotivate developers from utilizing the useful tool called "Byond Forums" and be stuck forever on an issue only to just give up.
By now, I'm sure you have already replied raging at me calling me a narutard or a fanboy and such, but clearly if you had, you should at least read that paragraph right above this and find that you're just an idiot for replying before reading. Now back on track here, some other things.
The developer help section, aside from new developers, fails at helping in issues unless they are really easy, however if the issue is too easy, we don't even try. 99% of the time I get a DM issue, I try and solve it using my own methods in DM and bug fixing, if that fails, I go to windows live messenger friends (Vocal_Nebula, Teka, etc.) and if they are clueless, I look on the Byond help reference on Dream Maker and if I STILL can't find the issue, I refer to Dev-Help. By that time, the absolute WORST thing to hear is "figure this out yourself."
If it works, it must be right!!!The famous noob quote that everyone likes to shine around as pride you are no longer an idiot with DM coding and you "know your stuff". Just because someone programs wrong on the developer help section doesn't mean you have to be a dick at them and tell them they go by this quote.
I'm not saying we just paste in newly fixed code for them to take in their game, but I'm saying to explain the issue out for them so they can understand and comprehend what's going on. If they still don't understand, try breaking down the code they have provided and show what's wrong with certain lines or parts of it so they will understand. Are we really too lazy to do those simple solutions to our "noobs stealing code" issues?
My opinions to why we barely get new developers has nothing to do with the amount of rips or FUNImation's ban on DBZ and I believe (In MY opinion) that they had really no effect on the rise/decline of developers.
Ok, I'm done ranting here. Feel free to post your opinions and please make sure you realize that your opinions are really just opinions and not facts.
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