Riot in Oakland

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Jul 8 2010, 10:06 pm (Edited on Jul 8 2010, 10:30 pm)
It's beginning, armed robberies, burglaries, shootings, and everything a riot usually entails.

shouldn't really be considered a riot at this point, just a shitload of petty crime. i hope a 'real' riot doesn't ensue.
#1 Jul 8 2010, 10:09 pm
=/ unfortunate. Stay inside and safe!
#2 Jul 8 2010, 10:21 pm
What are you doing inside while all the fun ensues? Get out there and get some free stuff before it's all gone.
#3 Jul 8 2010, 10:32 pm
#4 Jul 8 2010, 11:14 pm
I would do the same. That shit is retarded and I'm so mad at how bent the justice system is in America.
#5 Jul 8 2010, 11:32 pm
At least we have pie.
#6 Jul 9 2010, 10:36 am
Fantastic.. People want justice so they do injustice! How freakin intelligent.

Just a bunch of children throwing a temper-tantrum at what they believe to be injustice. If they can give a reason why its unjust, and prove it - Then why would a riot need to happen?

Any reason they give will now be thwarted by their very own actions. Therefore, even the act of a riot and doing harm shows that the riot, in of itself, is a result of selfish desires, whateverso they may be.

Either it fear of harm, desires, or emotion - A riot would be an irrational way to solve any of these. At the most basic conceptual level, the only way a riot will succeed is by inducing fear, right? Hence, you put them in the same position who were just in, when you created the right. Now, instead of understanding why its bad, they will plot - The same as you did. And it will repeat - It can be seen through history. Doing injustice to another will not create justice.

Its how sad how idiotic people can become. They even use the concept of empathy incorrectly. An intelligent person would use empathy to understand how to induce change, and unintelligent person would use empathy to create an excuse why the person can do it, and possibly convince themselves that their irrational actions are correct.

For a nation based on individual rights and freedoms, we sure do have a knack for pushing others down to get upwards.

I bet not a single person in that riot can explain why killing/stealing/lieing is bad without using some form of "Well I would not like it happening to me". Oh wait! They wont know, because they are doing the riot in the firstplace!

Its gonna be like when the immigrants protested when I was in the 8th grade. Every one looked like a fool on the news, only a few approached in intelligently
#7 Jul 9 2010, 10:54 am
It was injustice.
#8 Jul 9 2010, 1:53 pm (Edited on Jul 9 2010, 1:59 pm)
Jedioh wrote:
It was injustice.

Eh.. You just cant argue with people who believe that their beliefs are knowledge.

My main point was that all the people are obviously doing this for selfish reasons, their actions show this. They apparently only have knowledge of quick-fixes, since they love to induce fear. Its already shown that fear will not bring a consistent amount of happiness to a community. It wont even make it peaceful overtime.

They each believe they know what is good, and what is bad - Yet they cant tell me anything but qualities. Its logically obvious that as knowledge increases the possibilities in life that you are able to notice within your mind increase. Hence, you have more opportunities for happiness.

You can also determine that since everything has either "happened" "will happened" or "has happened", that there are scenarios in which some people will not get what their current mindset believes to bring happiness, since it is based externally.

Therefore, the only consistent way to have happiness is two ways: External Extrinsic or Intrinsic.

First should be obvious, but it would be afterall a "belief" in something, not knowledge. It will overall result in the belief that happiness will ensue after death.

The next will be based on a process dependent on life, and will only disappear as a result of external damage. Basically, Learning. No matter what, if you have the capability, you can learn till an external factor disallows it. This is opposite to not being happy till an external factor allows, it is instead be happy till an external factor disallows.

Hence, you will be happier overall. In this case, you will act logically and learn as much as possible. You will teach, and hold others close as well, for you will eventually die. Like planting seeds of knowledge within individuals. Others, no matter if they're illogical, will always teach: Either by example of what or what not to do. Hence, you are able to be happy, as long as you can learn, for you understand you are getting closer to understanding of how things interact.

Therefore, Altruism is naturally keyed in to those individuals, because they care for others just as much as themselves, because they are just as important in the realm of possibilities and understanding what possibilities can/cannot occur. Therefore, they will never do anything purposely to limit anothers freedom, because it will limit the amount it can possibly have a reciprocal effect on themselves. Hence, they will not kill/steal/lie/ do anything that can be percieved as an example and bring others to do it/ harm others.

If you do make a mistake, that was contrary to what you thought would happen, Note it. Then it will not be in vain. Not to say I havent lied, although I do not do it much and when I do, and notice it, I immediately apologize for the harm it could have caused. I consider using beliefs as truths lieing(If you are trying to convince others).

Hence, the actions that these people are doing in the riot will not bring what the Aristotle use to call "Human Flourishment" - Or Consistent Happiness in our views(roughly). Instead, it will stunt possible growth of society, etc.

If you also believe in a by-product of "entropy" to be complexity, these actions also counter the building-pace of complexity.

Best thing about these views, is that if you do believe in an afterlife, doing these things will absolutely not go negatively against you.

Phew... Alot. To be honest, I just love typing these because it helps build concepts(I secretly hope someone to prove it wrong, Haha). But it is all a current belief of mine, that is pretty sound.

I suppose thats what God would have meant by "turn the other cheek"? Haha. Although, I still believe that things happen by "necessity", as reactions of other reactions. So maybe some people wont change, then again, maybe the introduction of me as an external influence will cause others to realize their inconsistencies - The same as they can to me.



#9 Jul 9 2010, 3:03 pm
Chidori123 wrote:
Jedioh wrote:
It was injustice.

Eh.. You just cant argue with people who believe that their beliefs are knowledge.

My main point was that all the people are obviously doing this for selfish reasons, their actions show this. They apparently only have knowledge of quick-fixes, since they love to induce fear. Its already shown that fear will not bring a consistent amount of happiness to a community. It wont even make it peaceful overtime.

They each believe they know what is good, and what is bad - Yet they cant tell me anything but qualities. Its logically obvious that as knowledge increases the possibilities in life that you are able to notice within your mind increase. Hence, you have more opportunities for happiness.

You can also determine that since everything has either "happened" "will happened" or "has happened", that there are scenarios in which some people will not get what their current mindset believes to bring happiness, since it is based externally.

Therefore, the only consistent way to have happiness is two ways: External Extrinsic or Intrinsic.

First should be obvious, but it would be afterall a "belief" in something, not knowledge. It will overall result in the belief that happiness will ensue after death.

The next will be based on a process dependent on life, and will only disappear as a result of external damage. Basically, Learning. No matter what, if you have the capability, you can learn till an external factor disallows it. This is opposite to not being happy till an external factor allows, it is instead be happy till an external factor disallows.

Hence, you will be happier overall. In this case, you will act logically and learn as much as possible. You will teach, and hold others close as well, for you will eventually die. Like planting seeds of knowledge within individuals. Others, no matter if they're illogical, will always teach: Either by example of what or what not to do. Hence, you are able to be happy, as long as you can learn, for you understand you are getting closer to understanding of how things interact.

Therefore, Altruism is naturally keyed in to those individuals, because they care for others just as much as themselves, because they are just as important in the realm of possibilities and understanding what possibilities can/cannot occur. Therefore, they will never do anything purposely to limit anothers freedom, because it will limit the amount it can possibly have a reciprocal effect on themselves. Hence, they will not kill/steal/lie/ do anything that can be percieved as an example and bring others to do it/ harm others.

If you do make a mistake, that was contrary to what you thought would happen, Note it. Then it will not be in vain. Not to say I havent lied, although I do not do it much and when I do, and notice it, I immediately apologize for the harm it could have caused. I consider using beliefs as truths lieing(If you are trying to convince others).

Hence, the actions that these people are doing in the riot will not bring what the Aristotle use to call "Human Flourishment" - Or Consistent Happiness in our views(roughly). Instead, it will stunt possible growth of society, etc.

If you also believe in a by-product of "entropy" to be complexity, these actions also counter the building-pace of complexity.

Best thing about these views, is that if you do believe in an afterlife, doing these things will absolutely not go negatively against you.

Phew... Alot. To be honest, I just love typing these because it helps build concepts(I secretly hope someone to prove it wrong, Haha). But it is all a current belief of mine, that is pretty sound.

I suppose thats what God would have meant by "turn the other cheek"? Haha. Although, I still believe that things happen by "necessity", as reactions of other reactions. So maybe some people wont change, then again, maybe the introduction of me as an external influence will cause others to realize their inconsistencies - The same as they can to me.



.________. so inconsiderate of my feeble mind.

OK i get what you're saying, but I have to be honest, I didn't read all of it. D:
#10 Jul 25 2010, 11:42 am
Dude it's called fun. Quit blogin and go spread some genocide!
Well you should have done it >.>