I don't see that that's true. One can adequately describe the type and quality of music, lyrics, and so on without necessarily knowing what the artist intended to convey. It is the mark of a good artist that they can convey it successfully.
Maybe you don't see the messages becasue they arn't targeted toward you. I suppose the question to ask here, is how old are you? You seem increasingly like you belong to an older generation than myself and most Limb Bizkit fans. I interprit the messages in his music because the involve things that are familiar to me and others of my age, as we go about our lives day to day. Limp Bizkit is targeted at "gen X".
It's by no means a teenybopper band. Such would include M2M, A*Teens, and individual singers like Britney Spears and Leslie Carter.(who? =)) Bubble gum pop is a completely different genre.
Different meanings I guess. Bubble gum pop isn't a term we use here, though it's pretty obvious what it means. Here teenybopper pretty much means anything tryhardish or too american (as in, they go over the top to try to imitate American sterotypes).
It's often true that many critics fail to see meaning, but it's also often true that many artists fail to convey it. If the deep meaning of some lyrics happens to be buried under a thick crust of enraged shouting, self-edifying stanzas, and vulgar diatribes launched at critics, however, it's perfectly valid to question whether such a deep meaning exists at all. If Limp Bizkit wants to get a deeper meaning across, they're not doing it in a very unique fashion, and the meaning is largely inaudible.
As I said before, different things appeal and affect different generations differently. Mmm, difference... Yup, you used "vulgar". The only person I know to have ever used that world, other than you, is my grandparents. Limp Bizkit simply arn't targeted at you. =)
I dunno; my contention, and AbyssDragon's as well, was that Limp Bizkit sounds a lot like other angry, shouty groups out there. You've said nothing to disprove that contention, so they can't be as "hard done by" as you say. If critics judge them harshly based on their striking similarity to other groups and the way any messages get drowned under a sea of screaming, that's a perfectly fair assessment. There are no doubt differences between Limp Bizkit and other bands, but those differences would seem non-trivial only to fans of the sub-genre.
When I talk about hard done by, I was refurring to things like rape rock. Not a typo. This term came about after the second (and appaling) Woodstock, where Limb Bizkit was accused ignoring the fact that people were being raped while they played. This is a pathetic thing to say. They didn't know it was going on. Now, I've never stood infront of 300K people beofre, but I'm guessing it's pretty hard to monitor them all, and "shout" at the same time.
I dont think LB are hard done by when they are compared to other bands. Its when people bash them, becasue they dont understand them. And no matter what you say, you dont understand them, because of no fault of your own, because you simply arnt who they are targeted toward, or atleast, this is how it appears to me.
I'm curious why someone who's purportedly such a big fan of Limp Bizkit so repeatedly misspells their name. You are aware there's a P in "Limp", right?
I have a tendency to spell things phoneticly (foneticly =)). If you look through my writing, you'll see I oftern swap between using a "p" and a "b". It's because it's pronounced Limb, so thats how I write it. Things might be different here, but we don't pronounce the "p".
And, just because it's been driving me nuts, the word "article" is not spelled "artical".
Drives you nuts? How do you think I feel? When I write HTML I have to spell "colour", "color".
I don't see that that's true. One can adequately describe the type and quality of music, lyrics, and so on without necessarily knowing what the artist intended to convey. It is the mark of a good artist that they can convey it successfully.
It's by no means a teenybopper band. Such would include M2M, A*Teens, and individual singers like Britney Spears and Leslie Carter. Bubble gum pop is a completely different genre.
It's often true that many critics fail to see meaning, but it's also often true that many artists fail to convey it. If the deep meaning of some lyrics happens to be buried under a thick crust of enraged shouting, self-edifying stanzas, and vulgar diatribes launched at critics, however, it's perfectly valid to question whether such a deep meaning exists at all. If Limp Bizkit wants to get a deeper meaning across, they're not doing it in a very unique fashion, and the meaning is largely inaudible.
I dunno; my contention, and AbyssDragon's as well, was that Limp Bizkit sounds a lot like other angry, shouty groups out there. You've said nothing to disprove that contention, so they can't be as "hard done by" as you say. If critics judge them harshly based on their striking similarity to other groups and the way any messages get drowned under a sea of screaming, that's a perfectly fair assessment. There are no doubt differences between Limp Bizkit and other bands, but those differences would seem non-trivial only to fans of the sub-genre.
I'm curious why someone who's purportedly such a big fan of Limp Bizkit so repeatedly misspells their name. You are aware there's a P in "Limp", right?
And, just because it's been driving me nuts, the word "article" is not spelled "artical".
Lummox JR