'Block The Issue!'
If the moderators don't think a permanent ban on that user will see them out of the community (That's why we don't hand out permanent bans that often, is because people always come back on new keys just to cause more drama out of spite.), the community needs to make an active effort to be aware of the pagerban feature's new function of hiding a user's posts and taking the responsibility of ensuring that a user is shunned rather than fed fuel to continue to make this place unbearable.
This whole threads purpose is arguably to perform a witch hunt on Lugia.
Lugia has broken the rules
It also raises ethical concerns, because if you or ter or anyone else can determine who will be "shunned" it would be like a group of kids bullying the uncool kid of the playground.
I just find it peculiar that your argument is that we're bullying Lugia by asking him to improve or leave. By the same argument, all moderation is bullying.
Ok, this conversation has gone on long enough. I hope you at least considered what I am saying.
GamerMania here. No, Johnny is an entirely new member of our group. :) The only reason that chat log exists was because you apparently left the community, so I had to have a little fun.
I still haven't heard back from you about those 4 simple questions, but keep in mind that the only reason you have to play cool kid on the internet is because your ex girlfriend beat you and abused you in other ways.
You also edit your log to hide the fact that it took you so long to find out it was me. :D
This isn't just a matter of "Ter doesn't like someone.". This is an issue of a persistent and abusive core of users that are actively trying to feed any and all anti-social activity here for the explicit stated purpose of degrading and destroying this community.
There's a lot more context going on behind the scenes than you are aware of Ichiro. We just can't talk about it because of asinine forum rules that actually allow these users to try to claim any and all criticism of their actions and statements is personal.
You aren't fully aware of who and what you are aiding, Ichiro.
I'm not connected to any of those users at all. I have a neutral opinion of pretty much everyone here. I'm just arguing that it's better to have moderators handle this than relying on community-wide personal bans.
browbeaten by Tom and more recently you.
I mean, am I making any sense at all here, Ichiro?
Lige and I both resigned as moderators because of Tom's leniency on these exact users. I argued that these users were going to keep doing this and making the situation worse. Tom basically asked us to allow these users to make new keys, continue their shenanigans, and wait for them to prove that they hadn't changed.
Simply put, I'm asking the community to add this user to their pagerban list if you regularly post here.
I can't even tell what you mean by this anymore.
That's my only issue with you or with this thread. But also, if you have any problems specifically with me I would hope you would just message me so we can resolve them privately.
My only problem is that you are effectively asking me and everyone who reads your post to ban him.
In my opinion it's better to have a moderator hand down a deterrent than to ask everyone to personally ban someone, I have no problem with you publicly saying someone is doing bad things and you disagree with them.
Somewhat, I can't tell why your so fixated on telling me I am mistreating you.
I mean come on, I've been trying to get people to put more faith in the moderation
to improve the rules
the community dealing with a troublesome user is a bad thing
Lummox doesn't want to improve the rules, he prefers guidelines
a general rule, principle, or piece of advice.
User A might have had a bad day or maybe they didn't notice the tone of their comment, yet they'd be banned for X days because User B, who constantly berates others, was banned for the same reason and their punishment must be equal. Not really "fair"