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Hello, being new to byond and after watching many videos of SS13 wanted to try it out by self, however, there's a problem, byond won't launch, instalation didn't say anything is wrong but when opening byond all it does is showing up in task manager and doing nothing. Tried all the solutions that could find, no, don't have sonic audio, yes, reinstalled byond multiple times aswell as restarted computer and even tried to do that most often proposed solution of some "pager" file or something, but such file doesn't exist, there's no byond folder in my documents, only on disc where it installed and even there there's no such thing as "pager.txt", any other possible solutions? or if that pager file is required perhaps someone explaining why there's none?


Windows 7
The pager.txt file should be in the cfg directory under (usually) Documents\BYOND. It sounds like you were looking in the wrong place.
Thanks for responding, however... to prove that looked where's needed check those screenshots, these are documents folder and it doesn't contain any BYOND folder at all and then there's E:\Program Files (x86)\BYOND instalation folder which contains "cfg" folder in it but nothing called "pager", there's also nothing showing up in %appdata% folder in roaming, also doesn't help directly searching for "BYOND" or "pager".

For My Documents folder: https://imgur.com/a/eEE0S2M
For E:\Program Files (x86)\BYOND folder https://imgur.com/a/hsDaSj7

EDIT: Also this is the only thing that shows up in task manager after launching BYOND, it just exists there doing nothing, nothing opens up, there's no loading screen and there's no icon or anything anywhere at the bottom, there's also no other things launching together with it, no dream things etc, just this: https://imgur.com/a/Ih0BkWf
Yep, you're looking in the wrong place. You need to go to your documents directory, and there should be a BYOND folder under that. That's where you'll find cfg\pager.txt.

Also, another possible issue is if your documents folder is in OneDrive. That causes significant problems for BYOND.
There are only 2 documents directories (if understanding it correctly), one is for the main account, the other for guests account, both doesn't have anything related to BYOND, so.. if could somehow explain that, bcs either being too stupid or those things realy don't exist.

As for OneDrive no, didn't even know such thing existed untill now and never moved documents directory anyway from default location.

The extra information that could tell is that maybe have any meaning to this is that running all in administrator mode bcs too lazy and scared to touch rights and stuff and this easly allows to touch all files with no blocks, and another is that bought this computer with win 10 preinstalled but don't like win 10 so took a piece of disk and installed win 7 there which using now and during instalation it said something about wrong disk type or something that have no idea about...but it works so dunno.

EDIT: Perhaps if could tell how to track the supposed documents file thro maybe task manager if possible, maybe then..., have no idea, every system runs things differently and guessing just got the bad end.

EDIT2: Even went for the "for stupid" tutorial of... how to open documents folder https://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch001735.htm , tis the same thing and there's no BYOND, when searching google about documents directory all says the default is "my documents" in users and that's where was searching so guess not being stupid after all, have no idea what's wrong, maybe it instals incomplete...
We can try it a different way. In the registry (type regedit in the start menu), look under HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Dantom\BYOND. You should see a value called "userpath" that points to the BYOND data directory, which by default is in Documents\BYOND. That's the folder you need to open where you would look for cfg\pager.txt.

If the file is not in that folder, then it means something about the permissions or setup of that folder is wrong.
Yes, something must be wrong, there's no Dantom folder, not to mention BYOND: https://imgur.com/a/Kld6lEU

Any suggestions on how to fix that?
Looks like your installation didn't go through properly. Since you mentioned you tried multiple times it's likely there's some kind of security software at play causing it not to be able to write the data it needs to write to work properly.
Actualy have... no security, firewall disabled, antivirus disabled, there may be some software conflict maybe?, but surely got no "protection" software that could interfere with the process, tbh tis the first time ever had such problem like this. Also it doesn't work even fresh on start up so not sure, would like maybe... launching windows in that mode where nothing turns on and installing it there (if possible) force it in or something?
The fact it's not writing the registry entries means the installer isn't doing its job (you are using the exe installer, right?). Are you sure you're running it as admin? Normally it'll kick you out if you're not, but it's usually either lack of admin rights or some security system in play that causes those kinds of failures.

You mentioned you disabled things, what about Windows Defender?
It was enabled so disabled windows defender, uninstalled BYOND, installed it again, however it still doesn't do anything except showing up on task manager, the file also didn't show up in registry either...

And yes, runing it as admin, to be 100% sure even clicked the option and it still wasn't enough.
If you're not even seeing a userpath value in the registry where I mentioned it, then something on your system is massively broken. However maybe you can do an end run around that. Create a directory like C:\BYOND and then create the userpath value in the registry where I said, with that path. It might be enough to get you on track.
Actually found Dantom in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE into SOFTWARE and into Wow6432Node then there's BYOND inside and there are 2 things: https://imgur.com/a/VVfOAb1 , is that what should be in the CURRENT_USER insteed or that's something different completly unrelated?

If that's unrelated then gonna continue with the above suggestion, should that folder in E:\BYOND be empty or should copy in the files... or install it in there, dunno, wanna be 100% sure what exactly should do to not screw it up.
The HKLM registry path is unrelated to this issue; it's only there to give BYOND info on where it's installed.

And no, you don't need anything in your user data directory. I would advise creating the directory first just so it has working permissions, and then going from there.

Also, why is this on E: instead of C:? If E is a network-mapped drive then that won't work, but otherwise it should be okay.
Okay, tried reinstalling it with the Dantom\BYOND in regedit added and with E:\BYOND but it didn't work, nothing new is installed however uninstaller noticed the files in regedit and deletes them when uninstalling.

As for E insteed of C, C is the always default name of disc that exists when buying computer and stuff, however don't like windows 10 so did split the disk in half and on the other half installed windows 7 (that now using), that's why E not C, just everything installs by default on E bcs windows 7 that running on is there, if want could do it on C tho that's windows 10 disc so dunno how that would work.
Guess there's no other suggestions that can offer since no one responded?... Maybe if someone gave all their BYOND files it would work...
Honestly this sounds like a permission problem. It may be because of this weird bifurcated system you're running.
Hello!, to the dev and community BYOND imagination >.>...., atlast found the reason why the platform (and on the ocasion also homm3) didn't work!

Was bored and at the same time determined so... started doing clean boot experiments, what was the problem? Nahimic 2+ Audio Driver, disabling this allowed byond to launch, how did that even conflict is some vodoo magic but yeah, it was the problem, hope it helps others aswell.
In response to Nightstrasza
Where is that and how do you go about disabling it?
I had the same problem when upgrading from 512 to 513. And I fixed it.

Run byond, watch for loading game info. Then click on byond again and fly out to the byond window. Click on the shistirenka and enter your password / login. Then, through Open Place, go to the server

If it's not clear: double-click on the bienda icon, shistirenka, enter and open the location
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