WIP Clay Dragon, C+C needed. in Off Topic

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Oct 14 2011, 6:11 pm
So like a month ago, I started working on sharpening my skills with larger pixel art. I haven't had the chance to add this to my game but I feel like I'm going to be adding it maybe tomorrow or the day after. So I'd like some constructive criticism before I do so. I'd like it 100% perfect before adding it in.

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PS: the animation sped up for the gif, normally it would look much smoother and realistic.

One thing I think doesn't fit is the head's perspective but I'm terrible with perspective so any ideas would be helpful :)
#1 Oct 14 2011, 6:23 pm
My problem is that the body is a top down view but the head is a front view. It looks as if the dragon is aware there is a camera and looking up at it or that the face of the dragon is located on top of its head. It is difficult to do but you have to try and keep the view consistent.

I'd also suggest making the tail animate maybe, I dunno though. Other than that it looks nice, very much like the anime.
#2 Oct 14 2011, 6:25 pm
This is where his eyes should be. You can continue from there.

Remember, he is looking infront of himself, not up into the sky. Therefore, from a top down view, his eyes are going to be near the edge of his head, not in the center or near the very top. Same with the mouth - I should see next to nothing of his mouth in a top down view.
#3 Oct 14 2011, 6:32 pm
I think you should also consider how well this fits in with your current art, looking at some other screenshots your other art isn't as top down as this. I think the perspective used is 3/4 or oblique whereas this piece is strictly top down.
#4 Oct 14 2011, 6:41 pm
ROFL this made meh dehy
#5 Oct 14 2011, 6:43 pm
Yeah that's what I thought.. I just can't find a way to make it work, for example: empirez, your edit is in the correct perspective but in that perspective it hardly looks like a dragon and looks sorta silly. So I'm stuck now, I don't know where to go from this point.

And Slayde, yeah that's another problem. I didn't really think about that at the time but still it took me about 3 hours to make this, I don't really have the time/motivation to make another. Either way, I don't think it should be that big of a problem:)
#6 Oct 14 2011, 6:57 pm
Just make the face pointed a bit more like this: http://i.imgur.com/j6lQO.png

I would use this for reference if you're not already: http://pencilillustrator.com/files/c2-dragon.jpg
#7 Oct 14 2011, 7:34 pm
That's a much better reference than what I was using thanks! although it seems you already edited everything perfectly, do you mind If I use your edit?
#8 Oct 14 2011, 7:37 pm
The face of the creature doesn't look like a dragon. Also, only the wings of dragon are moving rather than the whole body. Shades on the wings also look weird.
#9 Oct 14 2011, 7:37 pm
Eyes lower... we shouldn't see the mouth that much..

Extremely long neck as compared to short body length o.o

Shading with the wings is a bit too much. On the fourth state like 80% of the wing that should have light on it is shaded dark. O.O
#10 Oct 14 2011, 7:49 pm
Yeah the thing is, I'm shit with animation-__- and silenced the neck is generally long with the clay dragon. It's usually the same length as the body and why would it have light? the wing is folding downward ahaha

unless I'm even worse with lighting than I thought.
#11 Oct 15 2011, 12:11 am
Random pixel artist bullshit.
#12 Oct 15 2011, 12:17 am
Rugg wrote:
Random pixel artist bullshit.

Yea, extremely unnecessary. Troll somewhere else.
#13 Oct 15 2011, 3:24 am
AbdelJN wrote:
That's a much better reference than what I was using thanks! although it seems you already edited everything perfectly, do you mind If I use your edit?

Sure you can use it if you want lol :P
#14 Oct 15 2011, 12:58 pm
Good luck.
#15 Oct 15 2011, 2:20 pm
i designed the clay dragon for NE as a persistent AOE kinda thing since deidara is a long range character it allows the user to keep a constant distance between him and his opponents with the tail swing etc

i wouldnt say a second ride-able would be needed
#16 Oct 15 2011, 8:52 pm
The Wings need to have a bigger animation area that leads all the way up to where the wings connect to the dragon's body. Movement in the Tail, Feet, Neck and Arms(?) Are also acceptable.
#17 Oct 16 2011, 11:12 am
Just got back from having no internet, thanks for the feedback guys, I'll try fixing it up a bit.

Rugg wrote:
Random pixel artist bullshit.

you're cool bruh

#18 Oct 16 2011, 10:56 pm
Oh no! Clay dragon see's us!): haha jk
Not bad, a few angle touch ups could help.
#19 Oct 17 2011, 12:08 am (Edited on Oct 17 2011, 12:14 am)
You should change the dragon's head. Unless it suppose to look like that. Since your looking at it at a top down view its field of vision is suppose to be at a downward angel. For a better animation, try making its neck and tail sway from left to right.
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