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Keywords: politics, rant
Before anyone starts up saying this is insensitive, first think of the dozens of innocent Muslim and "Muslim looking" people who died after other terrorist attacks due to people's ignorant beliefs that we are all guilty of everyone else's crimes. I obviously don't believe that we should be eyeing up Christians with the same questions that people currently impose on innocent Muslims, but just think for a second at what the result would be if it was now reversed:

In the last twenty years, Muslims have often held the blame for many things: terrorism, the drug trade, prostitution, paedophilia, invading Christian lands and more. As a result, there have been popularist calls for Mosques to be banned, the Quran to be banned, for Muslims to uncover, for Muslims to be kicked out, for Muslims to be prevented from coming into the country, for Muslims (and Jews) to not be able to eat Halal (and Kosher) meat, and for Muslims to simply disappear into gas chambers.

In Europe, there are already anti-Muslim legislation in several countries, no more Minarets in Switzerland, no Burkas in France and Belgium and a ban on Halal and Kosher slaughter in the Netherlands. In the Mid 90's, over a hundred thousand Muslims were executed or went missing due to ethnic Serb belief that Muslims were attempting to take over Europe.

Thankfully, this is one of the first Fundamentalist Christian attacks in the modern era, in countries like the UK and Germany Christians with stockpiles of fertiliser, bomb making equipment, grenades, rocket launchers and semi-full automatic weapons have been caught before their planned mindless slaughters.

But what if the hate was reversed? Surely now, we'd be looking at just what these Churches, buildings on per street in many Towns and Cities in Europe are teaching their believers? Surely we should be looking at who are funding these extremist buildings and questioning the culture around it and their holidays. Surely we should be questioning whether Churches should be continuing to be built and whether we should be pulling down their current buildings and taking away the crosses around people's necks. The Bible too, should surely be monitored, questioned, an banned too as their extremism surely comes from this.

This obviously sounds silly to you, but its what we Muslims have to put up with every day, because the actions of a few dictate your belief of the rest of us.
It's all fun and games until the corner-side preacher blows himself up.
True stuff however i have heard very little about said bombings - will look up later. Sorry to hijack this post but any chance of a blog about updates in "Android Nerf" please?

Thanks.
Most of them was from the gun attack afterwards, I think only 7 were killed from the bomb attack.

I will blog the update (sorry I didn't do it this week) and the 2 round's results sometime soon in regards to Wargames.
Why blame Christianity? Ban organized religion.
Yes, everyone who holds a religious belief is bad, because there is no atheists who commit murder.

:/
As far as we know, this tragedy happened because of the guy's politics, not religion.
You should just ban public spaces and having opinons. Problem solved.
Kisioj: He was a fundamentalist Christian who used that as his reason, this has already been established in the media, the Norwegian police have stated that in their press releases.
Acebloke wrote:
Yes, everyone who holds a religious belief is bad, because there is no atheists who commit murder.

:/

Keyword is organized (and as Stephen notes, it was tongue in cheek). You're the one whose title is "Man kills 94+ people in Norway, time to Ban Christianity?", mate.
Great article. Will it have any affect on peoples thinking, No because people are too stupid to think for themselves and allow the media to feed them with whatever bullshit they like.
@ Toadfish: Oh :p sorry. Still, 'organised' religion can mean different things.
"Ban Chrisitanity"- If you can't understand sarcasm then that's not ace's fault.
I think he was knowingly using a fair bit of hyperbole (which I pointed out you obtuse clod), not being sarcastic.
You've missed the point of my post Tafe.

In recent terrorist attacks (the ones committed by Muslims, not the IRA, ETA, Christian para-military organisations, the guy in Norway yesterday who also kill people based on their religious beliefs and stances) the first thing they look at is his religion, where he was going, his friends, his religious upbringing, the Mosque he went to, etc.

My post is an attempt to highlight what a fanny of an issue that can be, and that if the same attempts to link specific churches, priests, religious denominations to terrorism then there would be condemnation, or people like yourself attempting to refute it by making Christianity apparently not an issue.

My post is attempting to highlight that hypocritical stance where Islam is the blame of everything but Christianity-can-do-no-wrong whenever their adherents do anything morally or criminally wrong.

Clearly, this guy committed these actions in the name of religion and has hallmarks of typical White European Christian supremacists, ones countries like the UK has thankfully caught before they were able to commit similar actions in the past.
oh, il just delete my post and stop think about what others say. i would just miss all of the point anyways.

"Clearly, this guy committed these actions in the name of religion and has hallmarks of typical White European Christian supremacists" i want to know why you think that.

To be honest, that doesnt come clear to me at all.

It was all cause of politics. nothing about any religion was mentioned, else then him being a fund. christ.
My issue with this post is that you're basically saying: "Hey look. A terrorist attack happened and it wasn't the Muslims this time. Even though the vast majority of the religiously motivated high-casualty terrorist attacks in recent history have been, this time it isn't, so everyone else is exactly as bad, if not worse."
Then you'd be wrong, Vex. Read the post.
Oh, and @ Tafe, high profile arrests of similar profiled people to this Norwegian guy has occurred quite often around Europe in the last ten years. All have far-right tendencies or were members of socialist/national socialist leaning political parties, stockpiled bombs and guns, believed Christianity was at threat from Jews controlling the world/Muslims invading Europe, believed attacking the Government was the best way of highlighting this so called issue, etc.

This guy wasn't the first with the idea.
Vexonater wrote:
My issue with this post is that you're basically saying: "Hey look. A terrorist attack happened and it wasn't the Muslims this time. Even though the vast majority of the religiously motivated high-casualty terrorist attacks in recent history have been, this time it isn't, so everyone else is exactly as bad, if not worse."

Sorry Ace, but that's what it came off to me as well. I get where you're going, but you sound like you'd ban Christianity if given the opportunity.

So you know, in my neck of the woods, rarely do Muslims get targeted with hate from these instances, but people of the Middle East in general. I know a fair decent of Hindu and Middle Eastern Christians who get simply just as much blame for Osama bin Laden simply because of how they look, rather than their religion. As well, if a white male decided to claim the Islam religion, he tends to not hear much of the hate directly at him, just in the media.

I suppose we are in different parts of the world, but this is what I have personally experienced in my life.
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