Global Warming?
Pretty good ideas/theories about Global Warming.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF_anaVcCXg
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Posted by Bovine_Buddy on Saturday, June 21, 2008 01:29PM
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#25 Elation:
Did you know that cows contribute significantly to global warming? Is that a part of "Cow RP" too?
Friday, September 12, 2008 02:13AM
#24 Xooxer:
This really isn't the place to take your complaints. Try the Cow RP Complaints Forum instead:
http://z15.invisionfree.com/Cow_RP/index.php?showforum=3
Tuesday, September 09, 2008 09:09PM
#23 Jp:
The Earth has never seen the temperature increase this much, this fast, as far as we know (Discounting the really, really Earth, of course - I'm referring to Earth once the climate reached basically the composition it is today, mostly nitrogen, about a third oxygen, 1% CO2, the rest trace elements).
There are certainly feedbacks where increased temperatures increases CO2eq concentrations, but we have good theoretical and practical reasons to believe that increased greenhouse gas concentrations increase the amount of heat retained by lower layers of the atmosphere.
> Besides, you gonna accept the blame for climates elsewhere in the solar system?
And now you're going to tell me that Mars or Pluto or whatever other planet is getting warmer, too, therefore it must be the sun/cosmic rays doing it, right?
There are two pretty major holes in that particular claim - one, we have limited climatic data for other planets, and can't necessarily tell whether it's actually warming or just fluctuating as normal, and two, any solar warming effect strong enough to show up as a signal on Mars would be pretty damned substantial on Earth. As in, the solar effect would be undeniable, because the temperature would have jumped by six degrees or so.
Funny that those computer models happen to predict behaviour so well - like the aforementioned asymmetric warming of various layers of the atmosphere, which is completely and utterly unexplainable in a solar model.
If you want to play duelling blogs... http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=502
Sure, we get most of our energy from the sun - having 375 PPM CO2 rather than the observed ice-core maxima of 300 PPM probably does some interesting things, though.
EDIT: Oh, and the climate change that killed off the dinosaurs was caused by a meteorite impact, not the sun. That might be important to keep in mind.
Monday, June 30, 2008 06:27AM
#22 Xooxer:
No idea what planet you're on. The Earth has seen numerous radical changes. Lest you forget our old friends, the dinosaurs.
All indications are that temperature drives Co2, not the other way around. Besides, you gonna accept the blame for climates elsewhere in the solar system?
Your projections are based on computer models designed with false assumptions about Co2 and it's role in the climate. Your standard model of the Sun is outdated and ill equipped to explain modern observations. The earth's weather is a direct result of the solar weather we live in.
http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/2006/03/21/ solar-warming/
Monday, June 30, 2008 06:07AM
#21 Jp:
The evidence that the observed drastic warming is entirely natural is that we have absolutely no observations that suggest anything like this has happened before, right?
Monday, June 30, 2008 05:41AM
#20 Xooxer:
His argument has a severe flaw, namely whether or not humans can do anything. Even if we did contribute to the global climate change, there's no reason to believe we can reverse it. Besides, the evidence clearly indicates this is a natural cycle of the planet.
Monday, June 30, 2008 05:11AM
#19 Jp:
Hgyuf, just no. Global warming is in no way related to Milankovitch cycles, the ellipticity of the Earth's orbit, or anything varying the solar output we receive on Earth.
They can certainly be factors, but global warming based on greenhouse gas emissions best fits the current known data - specifically, that some layers of the atmosphere are /cooling/ while others are warming - which is predicted by climate models.
Sunday, June 29, 2008 09:05PM
#18 Popisfizzy:
Hgyuf wrote:
> what i have to say about global warming is earth doesnt go in a straight circle so sometimes its closer to the sun and sometimes its not. i think the scientists know this but they want their pay.or they are just thinking for more complicated soulutions
Buddy, you are a moron. The Earth follows an elliptic pattern, but that is a yearly motion. If you were right, then global warming would be relative to seasons, not years, or decades, or damn near a century.
Sunday, June 29, 2008 05:17PM
#17 Hgyuf:
what i have to say about global warming is earth doesnt go in a straight circle so sometimes its closer to the sun and sometimes its not. i think the scientists know this but they want their pay.or they are just thinking for more complicated soulutions
Sunday, June 29, 2008 08:24AM
#16 Markfoot:
Did my post prompt you to ask this?
Monday, June 23, 2008 01:54PM
#15 A0830:
AHH i say 2 hell wid global warming itz are fault anyway.
Monday, June 23, 2008 08:48AM
#14 Jp:
At the very least, the change caused by the meteorite impact (Which is, yes, the most supported theory) is what actually killed the dinosaurs. Of course, that was going the other way - sort of a nuclear winter effect.
Monday, June 23, 2008 12:22AM
#13 Popisfizzy:
Climate shifts, a lot. Climate changes are a regular cycle, albeit a long one. There have been multiple ice ages, as evidence.
Sunday, June 22, 2008 09:55PM
#12 Vexonater:
Jp wrote:
> The biggest threat is to agriculture, and a threat of flooding to low-lying regions - generally, that's third-world asian nations. Hurricanes are still up in the air (no pun intended) with arguments that they'll get worse/get better in the scientific literature.
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> Spread of disease may also be an issue - climate change may allow some previously tropical diseases to spread out a bit more.
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> Oh, and some theories of the dinosaur's demise posit climate change as the cause - and not in the sense of "the climate changed because a bloody great meteorite hit the Earth"
They debunked the "climate change on its' own" theory.
Sunday, June 22, 2008 09:49PM
#11 Jp:
The biggest threat is to agriculture, and a threat of flooding to low-lying regions - generally, that's third-world asian nations. Hurricanes are still up in the air (no pun intended) with arguments that they'll get worse/get better in the scientific literature.
Spread of disease may also be an issue - climate change may allow some previously tropical diseases to spread out a bit more.
Oh, and some theories of the dinosaur's demise posit climate change as the cause - and not in the sense of "the climate changed because a bloody great meteorite hit the Earth"
Sunday, June 22, 2008 09:04PM
#10 Armiris:
Elation wrote:
> Is that a baker's dozen or?
No, regular dozen. Only bakers can use baker's dozens.
Sunday, June 22, 2008 06:19PM
#9 Popisfizzy:
Note that dinosaurs and our rat-like ancestors didn't have largely permanant, extremely structured habitats that require a lot of resources to build and maintain, nor did they consume, per capita, nearly as much as we do.
Sunday, June 22, 2008 01:18PM
#8 Vexonater:
Popisfizzy wrote:
> That dozen is, of course, enough to melt the ice caps, displaying most of the world's population, as most of the world's population lives on coastlines.
If the dinosaurs and our rat-like ancestors can handle it, so can I.
Sunday, June 22, 2008 01:06PM
#7 Elation:
Is that a baker's dozen or?
Sunday, June 22, 2008 04:57AM
#6 Popisfizzy:
That dozen is, of course, enough to melt the ice caps, displaying most of the world's population, as most of the world's population lives on coastlines.
Saturday, June 21, 2008 10:11PM