CaptFalcon33035's Site - Locked: I Hate Something Too

#20 Jun 16 2006, 2:11 pm

In response to Vito Stolidus (#9)

Affirmative action programs sometimes do require acceptance based on race. A relatively well-known university near where I live recently, or still does, have such a program. If I remember correctly, someone sued on the basis of this program. I don't, however, remember who won the case.

So, a college which you refuse to name for some reason may have been illegally discriminating (or not) and you present this as convincing evidence? Huh? I am sure if "reverse" discrimination is so common as you claim you could easilly find a more concrete example.

What about these scholarships for illegal immigrants you claim exist? Care to link?

No, but there are hundreds of foundations to give money to minorities. Each has its own favorite minority, from Native Americans to African immigrants. I've never seen one that donates money to white males for college.

So you are mad that some people have gathered funds to help disadvantaged groups but not your group? That's one of the problems with a free market system, I guess. People can spend their money how they wish. Some fund the KKK, you know. Maybe you should talk to them about a scholarship fund for whites.

So, because someone 100 years ago who wasn't related to me except that he's white got favorable treatment over others on the basis of race, I get discriminated against? Shouldn't we get past race? If you discriminate against a particular group , no matter what group that is, it's wrong.

No. Because certain groups have suffered from discrimination they disproportionately makeup the underclass. We, as a society that value social justice somewhat, try to fix that and give them a shot at what you (by which I mean an average white male American, since your post seems to identify you as such) already have- a fair chance.

#21 Jun 16 2006, 3:41 pm In response to Mike H (#19)
CaptFalcon33035	You should seriously consider becoming a senator and running for president. Reguardless of losing value on a college degree, citizens should still receive a high amount of education. And, the same amount as everyone else. And what I said doesn't just apply to people in poverty. Even those who aren't choose not to go to college.

#22 Jun 16 2006, 3:44 pm In response to Jmurph (#4)
CaptFalcon33035	I don't beleive people discriminate against race as much as they used to. It's definately decreased. And, beleive it or not, but a lot of the hispanics are filed under "white" race. This may be because they most likely can't understand english. Ever receive those papers with the registered sexual offenders on them? All of the hispanic people are labled white.

#23 Jun 16 2006, 3:47 pm In response to Vito Stolidus (#15)
CaptFalcon33035	Well, I love my hispanic mayor. Carlos Alvarez is the name. We could do with more changes though. A clean-up program and pollution control. He's still a cool guy.

#24 Jun 16 2006, 4:00 pm In response to Papoose (#14)
Exophus	Sorry for the profanity, but that was the only word I could sum it up with. And he isn't right. -Exophus

#25 Jun 16 2006, 4:05 pm

In response to Alathon (#16)

CaptFalcon33035

Our government is too busy on the rights of illegal immigrants who aren't even citizens of this country and aren't even allowed to be here according to federal law rather than the problems of their own people.

The government spends a lot of money on the illegal immigrants. We spend a lot of money putting illegal immigrant criminals in jail and keeping them there. Criminals. Is that why they came to this country?

Americans are poor, tired, and hungry. We need to take care of our own people before anyone else comes here. Especially illegal immigrants who have no right to be here. They don't pay taxes. Why should they be allowed a free college education?

#26 Jun 16 2006, 4:08 pm In response to Sarm (#7)
CaptFalcon33035	And it's illegal. Border jumpers have no right to be here. They shouldn't get rewards for passing here illegally. They'd be exploiting our country, like it hasn't already been done enough. They should be kicked.

#27 Jun 16 2006, 4:29 pm
Jacob4td	I don't understand this,at first you were saying that minorities don't need free college,but then you say that everyone should be equal.I just had to clearify that I am going to leave this one alone.

#28 Jun 16 2006, 6:13 pm In response to Jacob4td (#27)
CaptFalcon33035	I was getting that they shouldn't have special treatment. Everyone should get into college free, not just they.

#29 Jun 16 2006, 6:29 pm

In response to CaptFalcon33035 (#26)

Jerico2day

CaptFalcon33035 wrote:

And it's illegal. Border jumpers have no right to be here. They shouldn't get rewards for passing here illegally. They'd be exploiting our country, like it hasn't already been done enough. They should be kicked.

That's right, they should be kicked back to their own country. Who gave them the right to be here, it's not like they were born here... Like you and me. How dare they come to our country, work their asses off in some 100 degree potatoe field, harvesting for less than minimum wage, just to send it back to Mexico. (At least, the ones I'm referring to are the ones we seem to enjoy hearing of in the news) How dare they send our hard earned money back to some crap hole south of the border to feed their children who live in the slums, er. Mansions on the coast. Right, they probably live in mansions on the coast.

And Walmart? What's up with that, how dare they feed the Mexicans hopes and mouths. How dare the Mexicans want a better life for themselves.

You know what we should do? Throw them in jail, and pay an average $62.01? a day, instead of letting them be productive. Cuz if we send them back to their slums they'll just try crossing again.

In short, the damn Mexicans steal our women, er jobs, and don't deserve to live alongside us whites.. er.. Americans.

#30 Jun 16 2006, 7:20 pm

In response to Jerico2day (#29)

CaptFalcon33035

Gah. I bet that was sarcastic. We don't need to throw them in jail though. They just need to be deported, or simply need to become a citizen of this country. They need to work for minimum wage or higher. And most of all, they need to pay taxes.

I was simply stating that the ones in jail do cost money to be kept there. The illegal immigrants are the worst. They should be deported back to their homeland jails.

#31 Jun 16 2006, 8:09 pm

In response to CaptFalcon33035 (#30)

Crispy

CaptFalcon33035 wrote:

They just need to be deported

In which case they'll just come straight back again (and can you really blame them for wanting to live somewhere where they can make a living?).

or simply need to become a citizen of this country.

They do need to be legalised. I'm not well-versed on the issue but that sounds like the best solution.

They need to work for minimum wage or higher.

That's not their fault - do you think they want to have lower wages than everyone else? If they were able to integrate themselves into the system then they'd be able to get minimum wage. Even with taxes they'd be making more money, I suspect.

You're just blaming illegal immigrants. That's not the solution; throwing blame around and saying "they should, they should" won't get you anywhere. You guys (meaning the US in general) need to sit down, figure out the root causes, and solve it from there. Ranting on about how they're "stealing our jobs" and "ruining our economy" is both misguided and pointless.

#32 Jun 16 2006, 8:46 pm In response to Crispy (#31)
CaptFalcon33035	I never said they were stealing our jobs, but they are ruining the economy at some level. And, they need to work for more than minimum wage pertained to the fact that they need to become legal citizens. When that has happened, they may work for minimum wage or higher.

#33 Jun 16 2006, 9:55 pm In response to CaptFalcon33035 (#32)
Crispy	My point is that you're demonising them for no reason. I quote (emphasis added): CaptFalcon33035 wrote: And it's illegal. Border jumpers have no right to be here. They shouldn't get rewards for passing here illegally. They'd be exploiting our country, like it hasn't already been done enough. They should be kicked. Mmmm-hmmm. That kind of attitude is offensive and gets you nowhere.

#34 Jun 16 2006, 10:48 pm In response to Mike H (#19)
Jp	I fully support this product and/or service. (Slightly more seriously, I agree fully with Mike)

#35 Jun 16 2006, 11:14 pm In response to Exophus (#12)
Mecha Destroyer JD	Exophus wrote: I don't get it why they have to have an all black TV channel too. It just doesn't make sense to me. -Exophus I kinda understood your other poitns but wth does BET got to do with it? Its just a channel that anybody can freely watch and it doesn't have ONLY black people on it..They can make a WET channel if they wanna but I doubt it will happen..

#36 Jun 17 2006, 4:18 am In response to Mecha Destroyer JD (#35)
Sarm	Mecha Destroyer JD wrote: They can make a WET channel if they wanna but I doubt it will happen.. Imagine the chagrin of everyone who would tune into that channel for all of the wrong reasons.

#37 Jun 17 2006, 5:00 am In response to CaptFalcon33035 (#32)
Elation	CaptFalcon33035 wrote: I never said they were stealing our jobs, but they are ruining the economy at some level. Damn [group], they're ruining something!

#38 Jun 17 2006, 5:05 am In response to CaptFalcon33035 (#32)
Jp	Citizens of ~~Springfield~~ America, your taxes are high because of illegal immigrants!

#39 Jun 17 2006, 7:29 am In response to CaptFalcon33035 (#22)
DarkView	CaptFalcon33035 wrote: This may be because they most likely can't understand english. That sounds like a pretty good reason to send someone to school if you ask me.