*** Begin Log: Sat May 19 23:08:05 2007 ***

[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Aang: ill come bak wen u ppl dont try to kill me ok
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Aang: bye

Aang {Aang360} Leaves Us.



John of the Tok'ra was killed by hitting a Stargate iris.
Tyr of the Asgard killed L Peters of the Stephonian.
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] L Peters: wot did u say kari?
Kari Kamiya of the Stephonian killed Tyr of the Asgard.
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Kari Kamiya: Stay out of my fights.

Kyhan (Kyhan) logged in.

[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] L Peters: o rite i c; i wern't really lookin at chat i was more concerned bout shootin
(Soldier) L Peters: if i die
(Soldier) L Peters: dial me chualk please
Curtis Madley of the Tau'ri[SG-3] killed Kyhan of the Jaffa.
(Soldier) L Peters: bout 5500 power i think
(Soldier) L Peters: dunno wot it'll be once i dialed
(Soldier) L Peters: 5500 :D

BYOND Member Nadrew (Nadrew) logged in.

[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Kari Kamiya: Hey, nad
Curtis Madley of the Tau'ri[SG-3] killed Kyhan of the Jaffa.

Dark Matter (Blah500) logged in.

Curtis Madley {F0lak} Leaves Us.



L Peters of the Stephonian killed Kyhan of the Jaffa.
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Tyr: why dont i have my chair......running is too much exercise
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Dark Matter: tsk tsk tsk, Nadrew
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Tyr: im gonna keel over with the amount of exercise *enters cloning pod*
Kari Kamiya of the Stephonian killed John of the Tok'ra.
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Baldr: u dont have a chair cos loki and vidar decided to make u a peacekeeper
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Tyr: aawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww .......why

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[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Tyr: inda cruel....
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] John: nad do u no anything about a form bann lately
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Tyr: kinda*
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Nadrew: I don't interact with the forums.
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Baldr: i dno
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Morrigan: Dinner, be back in a bit.

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[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Nadrew: Unless you mean the BYOND forums.
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Baldr: next ull be asking why njords a high commander
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Dark Matter: Bad Nadrew, Bad
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Tyr: if they are gonna keep demoting me every day...they might aswell put my clone now.....everyday i go down in rank its unbelievable...*sighs*
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] John: luss said yes the byond forms
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Nadrew: I know plenty then.
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] John: i said yes the byond forms
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Baldr: i cant be blamed, after the whole loki incident i have no real power anym,ore
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Dark Matter: This game would be 10times better if Nadrew wounldn't Abuse
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Nadrew: What did I do this time?
L Peters of the Stephonian killed Tyr of the Asgard.
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] John: NADREW does Luss ring a bell
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Tyr: i want reasons.....to why im being demoted everytime i log on
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Nadrew: Iuss isn't forum banned.
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Baldr: umm
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Dark Matter: You and Reeve making war with Tok'ra again cause "Tok'ra Pissed off Tau'ri"
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] L Peters: DM nad did NOT abuse to hack the ring codes
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Baldr: cos loki hates u and vidar jus nods
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Baldr: xD
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Nadrew: I don't see how that's abuse.
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] John: aparntly he is

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Albireo of the Tau'ri was killed by an unstable wormhole.
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Nadrew: If his key is Kazekage, his forum ban automatically expires in a day or so.
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] John: how about Kazekage Nad
L Peters of the Stephonian killed Kyhan of the Jaffa.
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] John: k
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Tyr: at the start i was LOT (200), then peacekeeper (200), then peacekeeper (50) then peacekeeper (1), now peacekeeper (0)......why....?
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Nadrew: He was banned for reposting a deleted thread twice after an official moderator warning.
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Baldr: tyr
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Baldr: if its 0
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Dark Matter: Master Told me Nadrew Admin edited our rings to get our Ring Codes, Now who to believe...Master or Nadrew....
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Baldr: im goin to shout at loki
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Baldr: dnt u worry
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] John: MEE to DM

Pepko105 (Pepko105) logged in.

[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Tyr: it is 0
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Nadrew: Master has no way of knowing what is edited, that stuff isn't logged.
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Dark Matter: I still Believe Master.....
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] John: why didnt u tell luss about why u delete it
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Dark Matter: Nadrew you have done too Much Crap on here to be trusted
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Nadrew: The reason was put into the warning he received.
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Vidar: who got a warning about what?
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Baldr: dark matter, of all the ppl to mess with nadrew aint one of em
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Nadrew: It would have been deleted and the same action taken regardless of who did it.
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> why was Iuss banned from SGO nadrew? src banned that is..
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] John: he says it wasnt nad
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Dark Matter: Good, Nadrew asnwer him?
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Nadrew: I already answered it.

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Kyhan of the Jaffa was killed by an incoming wormhole.
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Dark Matter: Nadrew Banned Iuss cause Iuss Knew Nadrew Admin edited to Get our Ring Codes
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] John: Yurg let me tell u luss was banned for asking nad about the hacking
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] John: but sayed whats the point of it being there if u dont no how to make it
Tyr of the Asgard killed L Peters of the Stephonian.
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] L Peters: tyr; it was a JOKE

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[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] John: luss wants to no about his coded bann
(Soldier) L Peters: merci
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Nadrew: DM, you can believe what you want. The fact remains I used hacking for it, regardless of what Master says. Master has absolutely no way of knowing if edit was used.
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Tyr: joke or not...u attack a member of the race im in
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> yes nadrew u do consult me
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] L Peters: tyr we dont attack u if u attack a membver of our race joke or not
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] John: he checked the host files nad
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Dark Matter: Nadrew....tsk tsk tsk, YOUR THE ONLY ONE WITH THAT HACKING INFO
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Nadrew: John, enough. Relaying messages from banned users is still against the rules.
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] L Peters: WRONG
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> ur overstepping your self banning ppl because they get on your nervs
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] L Peters: yurg has the info
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Nadrew: DM, keep it up and you're next.
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Tyr: *offers a plate of cookies for the hacking info*
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] L Peters: but he wont give it out til most of the bugs ahve been fixed
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Vidar: i agree yurg that is a bit too far -_-
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Dark Matter: Nadrew, John can Say stuff from Msn to Here
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] John: Nad he cant ask u y because hes banned
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Nadrew: Not if the person is banned, DM.
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] John: YURG can i ask whos side u on
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Vidar: then how does adi banned individual appeal against his gay banning?
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> i am no ones side, i have my own stuff to deal with
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Dark Matter: Nadrew, things not on SGO aren't bannible
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] John: k
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Nadrew: It wasn't for something not in SGO.
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Michael MaCleod: May I make a suggestion? If Nadrew tells me the hacking item combo I should be able to easily assumble and attempt to hack the Tokra Ring codes to see if it's possible.
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] L Peters: DM; technicly wot john is doin is AGAINST the rules
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Dark Matter: He just wants to know why Iuss was Banned?>
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] L Peters: check F1
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] John: im not realying messages
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] L Peters: yes but it is iuss who is askin y is he banned; john is just relayin the message
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] L Peters: realyin msgs is against the rules
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Vidar: Nadrew why was he banned?
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] John: FFS i said i asnt realying messages
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> Iuss was banned for getting on nads nervs which i think is unfair
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> u cant go banning ppl in the src because they annoy you
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Nadrew: Because I got fed up with him constantly complaining and annoying me. He was told not to many times.
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> iuss bugs me.. everyone dose
Universe:( Nadrew )> Obviously I can.
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Vidar: so he is perma banned because its a sourcecode ban
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] L Peters: iuss was banned for breaking the rules yurg; somet things i dont agree with but he shoulda been banned; NOT code banned but definately banned
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> yeah and ur not supose to nadrew
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> ur a coder not a moderator
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> i told u not to interfear with the mods jobs
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> i agrre a ban yes, but not a src bn
Universe:( Nadrew )> So I guess that means I can keep the moderation commands to myself? So I don't interfer with the moderators.
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Vidar: I say we hold a referendum for his unbanishment
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] L Peters: yes that is how i see it yurg;
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Tyr: wouldnt it be fun if i was givin the power to ban.........it would also be very very hecktic
Albireo of the Tau'ri was killed by hitting a Stargate iris.
Universe:( Nadrew )> I banned him in the source because I can't trust any of your staff to leave him banned otherwise.
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] L Peters: tyr if u had the power to ban; who would be unbanned?
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] John: i dont see it fair how nad can Bann someone like that
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> ur not a moderator nadrew, yes u have th verbs, donst mean u take matters into your own hands
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Vidar: is that really your call to make?
Universe:( Nadrew )> Well I did, and there's not really anything you can do about that.
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> that is your problem nadrew
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Tyr: everyone would be unbanned.....abr loki, l peters, Iuss, .....and it hink thats it....
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> u cant trust anyone thats your progative ive tryed to assure u that i wont repate past mistakes
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Tyr: bar*
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> u refuse me the src because of them
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Dark Matter: Finally, Yurg is putting Nadrew inn his Place :D
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> yet i am trying to prove u wrong
Universe:( Nadrew )> Yes, and I handled my problem how I saw fit. It's not a permanent ban, it's just a ban I know won't get removed until I say so.
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> but u dont give anyone the benifit of the doubt
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Tyr: del(src)
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> ur the one with issues not me
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Vidar: pity yurg cant do anything about it because nadrew is witholding the SRC from him
Universe:( Nadrew )> I don't care what issues I have, you're still not in charge of what I do.
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> yes i am
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> that is were u are wrong for once
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Mich: everyones backing yurg Nadrew Not you
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> my game no matter what u say. i let u have 100% freedom
Universe:( Nadrew )> I could very easily shut this game down, and leave it down.
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Dark Matter: :O, Owner/Coder Fight at Last!
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> and u screw me over constantly doing things u have no rite to do
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Baldr: yurg, may i suggest u take this argument off the game and onto msn???
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> no, everyone needs to hear this
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] John: no baldr they keep it on the game
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Baldr: o_o kk
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> nadrew is screwing me over because he has trust issues
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Dark Matter: Goody
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] John: i have to realy this to luss
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] L Peters: come on every1 play nicely; its yurgs game so i can see where he is coming from; i can see where nad is coming from; can't u 2 JUST GET ALONG?
Universe:( Nadrew )> You're lucky I'm doing anything to the game at all.
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> i have tryed to prove myself to him a dozen times over
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Vidar: no i think he is screwing you because he is a control freak -_-
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> it is simple, he refuses to trust because he has issues
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> i have respected that and still been pacient
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] L Peters: every1` has issues; some ppl face them; some don't
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> now hes taking over
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Tyr: ok im taking bets...who wil lwin, yurg or nad 2:1 odds!.................

BYOND Member Morrigan (Lady Nightstalker) logged in.

[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] L Peters: now yurg has got the fairest point
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Vidar: LADY <3
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> u assured me u had no intrest in taking over
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> yet that is what ur doing nadrew
Universe:( Nadrew )> I refuse to trust you because you're untrustworthy, you're asking me to trust you after I trusted you twice and had you screw me. Now it's your turn to know what it's like.
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Dark Matter: Lady, Yurg is trying to put Nadrew in his Place...:D
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> everyone is sick of u changeing recipes
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] John: come on i dont think nad can take over
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] L Peters: the thing is tho; if nad takes the game off; he will prob republish it under a different name so its gotta be a mutual agreement
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> i am sick of it. u refuse to give information out because of a bug,
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Morrigan: Oh sweet jebus..
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> yet u go use the skill neways
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Morrigan: What did I come in to -.-
Kari Kamiya of the Stephonian was killed by an incoming wormhole.
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Vidar: john he has! he holds the sourcecode and refuses to return it to its owner
Universe:( Nadrew )> I haven't changed a recipe in months, I reverted the system back to a strict order system because it had a major flaw.
Universe:( Nadrew )> And if I wanted to take over, you wouldn't be here right now.
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Dark Matter: You use Hacking skills noone else knows!!
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> i know what being stabbed in the back is like nadrew
(Guard 1st Class) Reload: Hi
(Assassin Commander) Kari Kamiya: Eh?
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] John: yea thas it the hacking
(Assassin Commander) Kari Kamiya: ...
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> and of all people i neva thought u were so low
(Assassin Commander) Kari Kamiya: Hm.. <_<

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[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Dark Matter: I always have
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Baldr: plus, if u did get rid of yurg a lot of ppl would stop playing anyway
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> u refuse to give me the chance to prove to you i wont give the src to anyone
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] L Peters: if u got rid of yurg u would lose almost every1
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Morrigan: Not me.
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> so u cant even begin to learn to trust me
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Morrigan: I have a duty to this game
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Morrigan: lol
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Tyr: ..
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] John: i say everyone to chulak
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Dark Matter: Doesn't Master have the Src?
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] L Peters: lol the way this conversation is going its going to be more like a duty to nadrew =/
Universe:( Nadrew )> That's YOUR fault for being untrustworthy in the past, TWO TIMES. You wouldn't go back to a girl that cheated on you twice unless you were retarded.
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] L Peters: no DM i asked ihm
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Morrigan: Yeah, come to Chulak so we can let these two have the Universe to themselves.
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Vidar: well nadrew is a control freak lets face it. Thats the real reason. He saw an oppourtunity to take the game and he has -_- bravo
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] L Peters: he doesn't directly host it from his computer
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> i didnt go back to her
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> actuly
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> get ur facts rite..
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> and yes i messed up

BYOND Member Ash (Ashortd) logged in.

Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> i have sed sorry
Universe:( Nadrew )> It was an analogy, stupid.
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Dark Matter: How is Master hosting game without Src?
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> DOZENS OF TIMES
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Morrigan: -.-;
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> i even told u im willing to waite
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Baldr: nadrew at least he loves a girl and not his hand XDXDXD
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> u just dont want to begin in the first place
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> messing me about in the prosess
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Michael MaCleod: You don't host with Source, you Host with a .dmb world file.
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] L Peters: i dunno DM; i think its hosted on a website of some kind and he hosts it by puttin a web address in Deamon instead of a local address
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Tyr: whats wrong with loving ur hand ; )....KIDDING ON
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Baldr: xD
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Vidar: 111
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> ur the one not willing to begin sorting out trust
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] John: 1111111
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> i am willing

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[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Tyr: yes to what?
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Vidar: 111 everyone
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> trust takes time, just like respect
Universe:( Nadrew )> Why would I? You've given me no motive to.

Cbgames (Cbgames) logged in.

Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> i have given u plent of reasons why u should trust me
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> trust takes time
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> i understand that
Universe:( Nadrew )> And I have a pretty damn good one not to.
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> thats upto you, but if ur not willing to start then why bother saying the things u say
Universe:( Nadrew )> As my analogy stated, you wouldn't go back to a girl that cheated on you twice unless you were retarded. If you don't know what an analogy is go back to school.
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> u react always based upon your own reasons when u dont listen to others befor hand
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> nadrew
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Baldr: hes using that story literally to state your idea of trust yurg
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] L Peters: nad i have to cut in here that is 2 COMPLETELY DIFFERENT things
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> ur analigie is incorrect
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Dark Matter: Go YURG GO!
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] John: NADREW u dont have to be so harsh
Universe:( Nadrew )> It's very correct.
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> if u love someone as some do, cheating sometimes isnt a problem
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Tyr: woo big words i dont understand *does a dance*
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> it can bring 2 people closer together
Universe:( Nadrew )> It's an analogy, do you even know what an analogy is?
Announce : ( Morrigan ) Everyone, stop interfering in their argument or I'll start handing out mutes..It's best to let this run itself out.
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> its all based on TRUST
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> u refuse to trsut anyone
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> even thos who work with you
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> none of the staff have doone what i have done.. and u even admit u dont trust them
Universe:( Nadrew )> I trust people just fine, I just don't trust someone that's taken that trust for advantage.
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> ur the one with the probem, not me or them
Universe:( Nadrew )> I trust the staff to a point, but only as far as I barely know any of them.
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> thats funny
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> cause u sed u trust none not even your parents
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Dark Matter: I gtg to work be back in like 4 hrs
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> so ur full of lies

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Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> i trusted u to be a partner on this project.
Albireo of the Tau'ri killed himself. (Suicide Bombing)
Albireo of the Tau'ri killed John of the Tok'ra. (Suicide Bombing)
Albireo of the Tau'ri killed Ash of the Tau'ri. (Suicide Bombing)

Kari Kamiya (Kari84075) logged in.

[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] John: FFS
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> i trusted u with 6 years of my life
Universe:( Nadrew )> And I trusted you to not give my work to people like Data.
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] John: ill kill that tauri
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> i trusted u even tho i made mistakes
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> u trusted me i screwed up
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Tyr: yes and u both trusted each other...GROUP HUG
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> yes i admit i screwed up
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> NO ONE is perfect
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> i have sed sorry and sed i will prove myself to be sorry
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Baldr: tyr
Universe:( Nadrew )> And in my world once someone takes your trust there's no earning it back. Second chances are for chumps.

Peter Barrows (Peter Barrows) logged in.

[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Baldr: you were told to shush
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Baldr: >_>
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> yet u still dont give a shit
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Tyr: i was???......ok *zips it*
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> thats how u live your life
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Vidar: screw this anyone needs me iam on msn
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] L Peters: hey kari; u chose a great time to come in right in the middle of a universe argument between yurg and nad if thats wot u call it; cut in if it isn't
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> but if u didnt trust me, why remain on the project?
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Kari Kamiya: I was here before it started, Peters. -_-
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> if u knew or thought i'd do it again why string us all along
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] L Peters: were ya/
Universe:( Nadrew )> Because I'm the only person that does any real work on this project. And I sure as hell don't want that work to go to waste.
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> ur work neva would of if u left months ago
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> u refuse to allow me to help or learn from you
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> thats is why i dont do nething but icons

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Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> because u refuse any help given
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> yes ur better
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> but still when ur offered help u should take it
Universe:( Nadrew )> If you want to learn from me looking at my code isn't the best way.
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Baldr: no offence nad, but no one else can ctribute if your only one with source, and ppl have tried to contribute but u turn us away saying u WANT to do it all yourself
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> u'd be suprised how some learn nadrew
Universe:( Nadrew )> I don't want your help with coding, your coding sets me back.
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> i am a gfx artise i learn from looking at things
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> if u'd of helped me learn it would would it now
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> might not be as good as u, but still i'd of been learning
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Baldr: i learnt coding by reverse engineering a zeta source XD
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> didnt matter if it didnt get added
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] John: IM SORRY YURG AND NAD
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Baldr: well, thats how i started anyway
Universe:( Nadrew )> You can learn without my help, not my fault you refuse to do it like everyone else.
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> eventuly i'd of been able to step up if u took a break
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> but u refuse to even alow that to happen
Universe:( Nadrew )> Everytime you've done that in the past I always came back to a mess.
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> IN THE PAST
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> Jesus are u listening to your self
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> the past is the past
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> what i am on about would of made things DIFFERENT
Universe:( Nadrew )> Maybe if you would have learned something between now and then I'd be more willing to let you do something. But you just stopped trying because it wasn't SGO.
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> u refuse everything i have suggested or request.
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> i have leared alot
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> but if u'd of helped me like a decent person would of. i'd be far better
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> insted im having to learn from novice work
Universe:( Nadrew )> I put everything you suggest on my list, and when I get to them I'll do them. But like any real programmer you have to put bugs and priority features first.
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Baldr: HEY
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Baldr: i take offence to that
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Baldr: >_>
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> yes i agree
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> and i want to help asmuch as possible
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Baldr: yurg, im not a novice T_T
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] John: Baldr this is all mine Iuss andDM fault
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> some bugs are easyer to fix than others

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Universe:( Nadrew )> Then get the hell off my back, that's the most helpful thing you can do. I work best when I'm left alone.
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> even if i had the src. anything i'd do wouldnt be required to be sent to you anyways
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> as simple telling you would be anuff
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] L Peters: well even if yurg isn't the best coder; he could always make a good attempt and then nad make a few corrections to make it right; would that work?
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> i want the src to progress myself..

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Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> for the better of the game
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Morrigan: It'd be quicker for Nadrew to write his own code.
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Nadrew: That's wasting time, Peters. Best to get it done right the first time.
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> i can assure u no one will see it
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Peter Barrows: WHo actually made the game btw?
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] L Peters: it was just an idea; i wern't sure if it would be work
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Nadrew: Android Data made the game.
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> but my assurance will not be anuff because u refuse to begin to work on the problems we have
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Vidar: data did
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Vidar: oh wait he already answered
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Peter Barrows: And NAD is the only one with the source because...he was on original staff...?
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> Data made it, and passed it to me
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> nad banned him
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> aswell as snipe, aza, iuss
Universe:( Nadrew )> You just admitted me sending the source to you wouldn't accomplish any progress towards this game.
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> all because he dosnt liek them
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> because nadrew u wouldnt want it,
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Morrigan: Why's Iuss banned?
(Guard 1st Class) Reload: Hey
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] John: i dont really like nad anymore now i heard that
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] L Peters: aza was wreaking havoc on AS wen aza was banned
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> but if i had the src i could help learn faster
Universe:( Nadrew )> Snipe isn't banned, not sure what's wrong with him. AZA is worm, and Iuss will be unbanned Monday.
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Peter Barrows: Sounds to me, it's as simple as Nad has control issues. No offense guys, but this game is pretty shit now. With only one guy who is notoriously a control freak in change, it makes for bad experience with staff and players
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> i want to be able to progress my DM skills asmuch as the next person. and i have seen alot of the games functions
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Kari Kamiya: For annoying Nad, I think...
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] John: morrigan luss is bann because he got on nads ners
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Morrigan: That's why I use Mute, but meh..
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Nadrew: I'm done talking to Yurg, I'm ignoring the universe channel now.
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> thats good for you
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> but the fact remains u best begin to trust me
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> i want the src
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Peter Barrows: ...alas, everyones point is man
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Peter Barrows: made*
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Peter Barrows: This be why I canne wait for SGNE
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Morrigan: NE is dead in the water.
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] John: wait yurg just won that argument
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Peter Barrows: i cant c how nad can deny the owner the src of the game that the owner owns
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Nadrew: Winning the argument doesn't do him any good. I'm just getting a headache.
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Vidar: i cant c how nad can deny the owner the src of the game that the owner owns
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> because he dosnt trust me
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Peter Barrows: He has no right, to be frank
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] John: Yurg luss just said to me that if u had never said anything he prob wont be unbanned
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Peter Barrows: He hosts the game, sure
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> because of mistakes i made in my past giving data a job back on sgo
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Peter Barrows: Without being the host, Nad would be thrown from SGO
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Nadrew: I don't host this, Master does.
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Tyr: i know i was told to "shush" but....why dont u guys start fresh and give each other all u have and know and forget this ever happened and strt trusting each other.......no???.....ok *shuts it again*
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] John: nad dont scard me anymore
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Peter Barrows: Learn to share then Nad. He doesn't have to actually change the game code, but he "owns" that code
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> Get Iuss to msn me plz
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Peter Barrows: He should at least get to keep the stuff he was given
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Nadrew: He owns the name of the game, the code I've done is mine.
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] L Peters: ok so wot about the parts of the code that data made; from wot i understand he dont own that
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Mich: nadrew can you not give yurg another chance to prove hes learned allot from his mistakes...
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Nadrew: As per our agreement any work I've done belongs to me, and in any event of me leaving I can have anything I've done removed from the source if I want.
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Nadrew: I've rewritten 90%+ of the game's code. There's only a few basic things left of the original.

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John (Johnnyboi54) logged in.

[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Peter Barrows: Cant Yurg have the original source or something?
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Nadrew: He already has it.
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Nadrew: Or should, he had to send me something when I started.
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] L Peters: peter he has somethin like 1.4.6 or 1.6.6 can't remember which
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Michael MaCleod: which is completely corrupted.

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[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Aang: hi all
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Nadrew: 1.4.6 is the last version I sent him.
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Mich: Nadrew they can go corrupt you now thats not good......
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] John: this all started because of me luss and DM
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Morrigan: Well, are you proud of yourselves?
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Nadrew: It's not my fault it went corrupt. I've never had a file on my computer get corrupted, much less a text file.

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L Peters of the Stephonian killed John of the Tok'ra.
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Tyr: u luss and DM.........lets get em!
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Aang: john is that a good thing or bad?
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] John: peters im there for a reason
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] L Peters: ???
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] John: tyr its our fault bring up luss
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> WRONG NADREW
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> i dont have it,
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Michael MaCleod: Never said it was your fault.
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> ur last updeate crashed the files
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] John: k
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> and corrupted them
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Aang: is chulak bugged?
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Nadrew: My last update didn't do anything, your computer did it.
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Morrigan: Not anymore.
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] L Peters: gate just closed
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> no u did it
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Morrigan: I fixed it
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> u even admited to me
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Nadrew: I did not!
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> it wont work to many bugs ni it
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> u'll fix and resend me it
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> and u never did
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Nadrew: The code may have bugs, but it's not corrupt.
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> weather ur work has replaced mine, it is still mine
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Nadrew: Anything that corrupts on your system is YOUR FAULT
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> u havent re-written it all
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> u only improved the original work
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Nadrew: The code is mine, if you want your work I can send the icons.
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> i want the fucking sorce
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Nadrew: And turfs.dm since it's the only file left from what you sent me.
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> the game is mine, not yours nadrew
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Nadrew: You're not getting it, nor can you force me to give it to you.
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> when u begun work on it u assured me i would get the updated
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> with your work includded
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> that is why u was given 100% freedom
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Nadrew: Not like you can legally own a fangame.
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> u have betrayed my trust in you
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> ruined my game
Universe:( Nadrew )> Welcome to the club.
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> there u have it everyone
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> a byond developers true colours
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Nadrew: I'm not a BYOND developer.
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> someone who is supose to represent the foundation of games
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> u work for Byond
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> ur a developer
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Nadrew: No I'm not.
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> so yes technicaly u are
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Nadrew: I'm a manager.
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> yeah cant manage a thing
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> cant even manage to remember your place or what u once sed
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Nadrew: I do community work, anything I do out of the official forums isn't part of my staff duties.
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> ur still respected because of your position
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Nadrew: Fine, Yurg. I'm quitting. And you're not getting crap.
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Aang: wat?
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> everyone looks upto you because u work for byond
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Nadrew: I'll send you 1.4.6 again if you want it.
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Morrigan: Nad nooo
Riki of the Stephonian killed Cbgames of the Tau'ri.
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> u send me 1.7.8
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Morrigan: >.<

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[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Morrigan: Damn, we're screwed now
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> no were not
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Morrigan: Yeah, we are.
L Peters of the Stephonian killed Zim of the Tau'ri[SG-2].
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> nad can leave if he likes
[SUBSPACE] Radio : [100] Morrigan: Nad's the thing that kept this game going
Universe:( Supreme Master Yurgeta )> i dont care much hes a lier and a cheat
Riki of the Stephonian killed Aang of the Tok'ra.

*** End Log: Sat May 19 23:59:26 2007 ***