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#37 Geldonyetich:  

Republican supporters can invent many ways to try to dump on Democrats but, as research such as this clearly demonstrates, national debt is not one of them.

I think the lions share of our national debt is Reaganomics, perpetuated in some variation every time a Republican president since Regan has been placed in power. It calls for cutting taxes, which pay off the national debt. It also seems to almost immediately trigger a recession by reducing the government controls that are only in place to prevent them. With our economy already spiraling towards recession and debt soaring from taxes that needed to be paid, they gave our national debt even more impetus through spending from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

I'm probably wasting my breath though. What few Republican supporters there are left that haven't figured this out yet after Bush Jr. ran us into the ground are remarkably stubborn when it comes to political matters. True believers to the grave. It's unfortunate, as this stubbornness undermines the very premise in which a Democracy is supposed to operate, under the idea that people will actually hold their elected officials accountable and minimize corruption through their votes.

Obama's main problem is he seems to be trying to work bipartisan with Republican interests to solve these problems. This should be considered a commendable thing. Unfortunately, it may have somewhat impeded this change he promised. We just received a filibuster proof majority on July 7th, so perhaps we can see some faster progress now.

Bottom line, if you want to complain about Obama, show us a better alternative. The last major Republican administration largely muscled its way in under the pretense of fear, did damage to the economy and our reputation which may well be irreversible. It may not be an exaggeration to say that the next Republican administration has a good chance of finishing us as a country, assuming they haven't already.

Tuesday, July 21, 2009 11:27PM
(Edited on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 01:24AM)

#36 Vexonater:  

Ganing wrote:
> Vexonater wrote:
> > Ganing wrote:
> > > Vexonater wrote:
> > > > Ganing wrote:
> > > > > Rtbbvr wrote:
> > > > > > Ganing wrote:
> > > > > > > Popisfizzy wrote:
> > > > > > > > Ganing wrote:
> > > > > > > > > We're trillions of dollars in debt, China and Saudi Arabia practically own us, and I'm waiting to hear someone say good job Obama.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Right, because this is all new and only started happening since January.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Correct.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Pfft I'm not Pro-Obama and I even know this is wrong.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > So we're not trillions of dollars in debt and practically owned by China and Saudi Arabia?
> > > >
> > > > We aren't because of anything Obama did.
> > >
> > > I never said he did anything?
> >
> > "We're trillions of dollars in debt, China and Saudi Arabia practically own us, and I'm waiting to hear someone say good job Obama."
> >
> > It's called implication.
>
> Well, I haven't seen anyone say "Good Job Obama."
>
> It's called misinterpretation.

No, there's no misinterpretation on my part. Given what you have said, there really is no alternative interpretation. If you were just pointing out you have never heard anyone say the words "Good job Obama," you would not have bothered to mention all of the information with it that you had.

Tuesday, July 21, 2009 09:25PM

#35 Ganing:  

Vexonater wrote:
> Ganing wrote:
> > Vexonater wrote:
> > > Ganing wrote:
> > > > Rtbbvr wrote:
> > > > > Ganing wrote:
> > > > > > Popisfizzy wrote:
> > > > > > > Ganing wrote:
> > > > > > > > We're trillions of dollars in debt, China and Saudi Arabia practically own us, and I'm waiting to hear someone say good job Obama.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Right, because this is all new and only started happening since January.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Correct.
> > > > >
> > > > > Pfft I'm not Pro-Obama and I even know this is wrong.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > So we're not trillions of dollars in debt and practically owned by China and Saudi Arabia?
> > >
> > > We aren't because of anything Obama did.
> >
> > I never said he did anything?
>
> "We're trillions of dollars in debt, China and Saudi Arabia practically own us, and I'm waiting to hear someone say good job Obama."
>
> It's called implication.

Well, I haven't seen anyone say "Good Job Obama."

It's called misinterpretation.

Tuesday, July 21, 2009 09:18PM

#34 Vexonater:  

Ganing wrote:
> Vexonater wrote:
> > Ganing wrote:
> > > Rtbbvr wrote:
> > > > Ganing wrote:
> > > > > Popisfizzy wrote:
> > > > > > Ganing wrote:
> > > > > > > We're trillions of dollars in debt, China and Saudi Arabia practically own us, and I'm waiting to hear someone say good job Obama.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Right, because this is all new and only started happening since January.
> > > > >
> > > > > Correct.
> > > >
> > > > Pfft I'm not Pro-Obama and I even know this is wrong.
> > >
> > >
> > > So we're not trillions of dollars in debt and practically owned by China and Saudi Arabia?
> >
> > We aren't because of anything Obama did.
>
> I never said he did anything?

"We're trillions of dollars in debt, China and Saudi Arabia practically own us, and I'm waiting to hear someone say good job Obama."

It's called implication.

Tuesday, July 21, 2009 09:04PM

#33 Ganing:  

Vexonater wrote:
> Ganing wrote:
> > Rtbbvr wrote:
> > > Ganing wrote:
> > > > Popisfizzy wrote:
> > > > > Ganing wrote:
> > > > > > We're trillions of dollars in debt, China and Saudi Arabia practically own us, and I'm waiting to hear someone say good job Obama.
> > > > >
> > > > > Right, because this is all new and only started happening since January.
> > > >
> > > > Correct.
> > >
> > > Pfft I'm not Pro-Obama and I even know this is wrong.
> >
> >
> > So we're not trillions of dollars in debt and practically owned by China and Saudi Arabia?
>
> We aren't because of anything Obama did.

I never said he did anything?

Tuesday, July 21, 2009 09:00PM

#32 Vexonater:  

Ganing wrote:
> Rtbbvr wrote:
> > Ganing wrote:
> > > Popisfizzy wrote:
> > > > Ganing wrote:
> > > > > We're trillions of dollars in debt, China and Saudi Arabia practically own us, and I'm waiting to hear someone say good job Obama.
> > > >
> > > > Right, because this is all new and only started happening since January.
> > >
> > > Correct.
> >
> > Pfft I'm not Pro-Obama and I even know this is wrong.
>
>
> So we're not trillions of dollars in debt and practically owned by China and Saudi Arabia?

We aren't because of anything Obama did.

Tuesday, July 21, 2009 08:59PM

#31 Ganing:  

Rtbbvr wrote:
> Ganing wrote:
> > Popisfizzy wrote:
> > > Ganing wrote:
> > > > We're trillions of dollars in debt, China and Saudi Arabia practically own us, and I'm waiting to hear someone say good job Obama.
> > >
> > > Right, because this is all new and only started happening since January.
> >
> > Correct.
>
> Pfft I'm not Pro-Obama and I even know this is wrong.


So we're not trillions of dollars in debt and practically owned by China and Saudi Arabia?

Tuesday, July 21, 2009 06:23PM

#30 Rtbbvr:  

Ganing wrote:
> Popisfizzy wrote:
> > Ganing wrote:
> > > We're trillions of dollars in debt, China and Saudi Arabia practically own us, and I'm waiting to hear someone say good job Obama.
> >
> > Right, because this is all new and only started happening since January.
>
> Correct.

Pfft I'm not Pro-Obama and I even know this is wrong.

Tuesday, July 21, 2009 06:18PM

#29 Ganing:  

Popisfizzy wrote:
> You are a fucking retard with no memory, then.

Mhm

Tuesday, July 21, 2009 06:17PM

#28 Popisfizzy:  

You are a fucking retard with no memory, then.

Tuesday, July 21, 2009 06:16PM

#27 Ganing:  

Popisfizzy wrote:
> Ganing wrote:
> > We're trillions of dollars in debt, China and Saudi Arabia practically own us, and I'm waiting to hear someone say good job Obama.
>
> Right, because this is all new and only started happening since January.

Correct.

Tuesday, July 21, 2009 06:14PM

#26 Popisfizzy:  

Ganing wrote:
> We're trillions of dollars in debt, China and Saudi Arabia practically own us, and I'm waiting to hear someone say good job Obama.

Right, because this is all new and only started happening since January.

Tuesday, July 21, 2009 06:12PM

#25 Ganing:  

Haha Video gone =P

We're trillions of dollars in debt, China and Saudi Arabia practically own us, and I'm waiting to hear someone say good job Obama.

Tuesday, July 21, 2009 06:09PM

#24 SuperAntx:  

Zaole wrote:
> go smoke some more pot, dumb hippie

I don't smoke weed, I'm just pissed he doesn't take the issue seriously when he built his campaign around being the kind of guy who would.

Sunday, June 21, 2009 10:20AM

#23 Zaole:  

SuperAntx wrote:
> I'm not particularly happy with the way Obama recently belittled the "legalize marijuana" question at a recent town hall.
>
> He spent no less than 5 minutes on every question, but when he finally got to the question which had the most votes on his little site, he spend about 15 seconds on it. He changed it in order to make it sound stupid and he just shrugged it off. To top it off he commented, "I don't know what this says about the online audience."
>
> What a douche.

go smoke some more pot, dumb hippie

Sunday, June 21, 2009 10:16AM

#22 SuperAntx:  

Less quote abuse, please.

Sunday, June 21, 2009 07:15AM

#21 Goku jnr:  

Stephen001 wrote:
> Goku jnr wrote:
> > Obama isn't doing a bad job, right now he is quite far off of a Bush status, but the economy hasn't changed, more like paused. The hype has been overzealous because Obama is is the "first black president", which gives black people a more dominant role in government, apparently.
> >
> > Many countries, like South Korea, and Iran who are hostile to America and Britain, are threats to the peace, it might not feel like it but we are in peaceful times compared to all out war, if Korea press a button, America would press a button. It is now down to who presses the button first. Obama is the peacemaker, while the last 3 presidents were warmongers.
> >
> > Obama is much different, so people are hyping his name and comparing what he does to what Bush did and would do.
>
> I think you need to appreciate that even if these countries had weapons capable of hitting the US (they don't), they wouldn't use them on the US. The US has a policy of total nuclear response to that stuff, they simply wouldn't have a country. Regardless of how crazy you might think the Governments of these nations are, they will not sacrifice their entire country and it's people down to the last person for the sake of firing a few sub-standard nuclear weapons at US cities. This is the very principle of MAD.
>
> The very fact that people in the US seem to think otherwise and vote according to this paranoid scaremongering is doing more to harm the state of world peace than anything. Over the past 8 years the US has started 2 wars against sovereign nations over what is a criminal case of mass murder. You shouldn't and can't fight an invisible enemy that knows no nationality with a conventional army, but the US is doing it anyway. North Korea and Iran have started no wars in the same period. The Bush bully tactics have created more problems for US security than it's solved.

Yeah, the West has been known for bullying other countries in Asia and Africa for centuries, I think Korea is out to protect themselves but it comes across as evil. US and Britain do have nuclear weapons, but they don't want Korea to have nuclear weapons because they are afraid of a power like that being controlled by them.

Sunday, June 21, 2009 05:39AM

#20 Bootyboy:  

Saturday, June 20, 2009 09:23PM

#19 SuperAntx:  

I'm not particularly happy with the way Obama recently belittled the "legalize marijuana" question at a recent town hall.

He spent no less than 5 minutes on every question, but when he finally got to the question which had the most votes on his little site, he spend about 15 seconds on it. He changed it in order to make it sound stupid and he just shrugged it off. To top it off he commented, "I don't know what this says about the online audience."

What a douche.

Saturday, June 20, 2009 09:05PM

#18 Stephen001:  

Goku jnr wrote:
> Obama isn't doing a bad job, right now he is quite far off of a Bush status, but the economy hasn't changed, more like paused. The hype has been overzealous because Obama is is the "first black president", which gives black people a more dominant role in government, apparently.
>
> Many countries, like South Korea, and Iran who are hostile to America and Britain, are threats to the peace, it might not feel like it but we are in peaceful times compared to all out war, if Korea press a button, America would press a button. It is now down to who presses the button first. Obama is the peacemaker, while the last 3 presidents were warmongers.
>
> Obama is much different, so people are hyping his name and comparing what he does to what Bush did and would do.

I think you need to appreciate that even if these countries had weapons capable of hitting the US (they don't), they wouldn't use them on the US. The US has a policy of total nuclear response to that stuff, they simply wouldn't have a country. Regardless of how crazy you might think the Governments of these nations are, they will not sacrifice their entire country and it's people down to the last person for the sake of firing a few sub-standard nuclear weapons at US cities. This is the very principle of MAD.

The very fact that people in the US seem to think otherwise and vote according to this paranoid scaremongering is doing more to harm the state of world peace than anything. Over the past 8 years the US has started 2 wars against sovereign nations over what is a criminal case of mass murder. You shouldn't and can't fight an invisible enemy that knows no nationality with a conventional army, but the US is doing it anyway. North Korea and Iran have started no wars in the same period. The Bush bully tactics have created more problems for US security than it's solved.

Saturday, June 20, 2009 06:33PM