Been Busy Doing Secret Things in Off Topic

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Aug 18 2011, 5:23 pm
Keywords: contest, development
Okay, I have a dark past.
Secretly, I used to make fan games. (Shocking, I know!)

I actually have somewhat of an attachment to my best project, so I had to tend to that for a couple of days. (Back to real action, now!)

Anyways, I just now came up with the board game concept I'm going to use for the Simple Developments Guild contest!

It's a simple turn-based board game concept. Currently, I don't know at all how much strategy is involved. This'll be fun to make.
I can't wait to make it and submit it!
I've never entered into a contest before!

(Putting Open Planet on hold for a bit.)
#1 Aug 18 2011, 5:44 pm
Oh no, I wanted more on Open Planet! ):
Oh well, good luck!
#2 Aug 18 2011, 5:46 pm
I'll probably work on Open Planet some before the contest deadline as well.
Don't worry.
#3 Aug 18 2011, 6:03 pm
Good luck. I finished mine already, and am doing small updates on it as issues arise. This is my first contest I've entered that I completed. :) I inadvertently added a sense of strategy to mine, but seeing as you are a competitor, I'm not going to reveal all of my secrets to you. ;)
#4 Aug 18 2011, 6:07 pm
Heheheh.
If you noticed, I didn't explain what my game concept was at all, as well.
#5 Aug 18 2011, 6:09 pm
Mine doesn't require much concept. It really does fit the Guild's description: Simple. Hahah.
#6 Aug 18 2011, 8:23 pm
It always makes me angry when I see someone who distinguishes "fan-games" and "games" as two different things. Said people are hypocrites, idiots, and wanna-be kiss-asses who just want to be a part of the exclusive elitist community.
#7 Aug 18 2011, 8:26 pm
Yut Put wrote:
It always makes me angry when I see someone who distinguishes "fan-games" and "games" as two different things. Said people are hypocrites, idiots, and wanna-be kiss-asses who just want to be a part of the exclusive elitist community.

Sorry, but I just don't understand.
They are two different things. One of them uses borrowed ideas, and has an existing fan base and thus is easier to make.
The other you can legally make money off of.
#8 Aug 18 2011, 8:37 pm
Complex Robot wrote:
They are two different things. One of them uses borrowed ideas,
Really? They are made either by people who like to emulate things they enjoy in a virtual environment, or people who enjoy certain themes and would like to emulate them along with game-play.. in a virtual environment. I see NEStalgia on your favorites list. It's a fan-game, using original narrative. No different than a DW fan-game.

And besides, unless the game is based solely on the game-play of another game, then it's an ORIGINAL GAME! Naruto GOA is an original game with a fan-based atmosphere. The atmosphere draws in a crowd, sure.. But who cares? Nobody cares, except for the previously mentioned wanna-be kiss-ass elitists.

and has an existing fan base and thus is easier to make.
Okay now that's bull shit. I can make a game in a day about stacking blocks, but since they are called NARUTO BLOCKS the game is therefore easier to develop!

The other you can legally make money off of.
In the real world, yes, but on a tiny website like this, good luck making over 10$ unless your game is freaking fantastic. Not every single non-profit developer is interested in profits, in fact very few.

#9 Aug 18 2011, 8:43 pm
Yut Put wrote:
Complex Robot wrote:
They are two different things. One of them uses borrowed ideas,
Really? They are made either by people who like to emulate things they enjoy in a virtual environment, or people who enjoy certain themes and would like to emulate them along with game-play.. in a virtual environment. I see NEStalgia on your favorites list. It's a fan-game, using original narrative. No different than a DW fan-game.

I don't disagree with this.

And besides, unless the game is based solely on the game-play of another game

My game is.

and has an existing fan base and thus is easier to make.
Okay now that's bull shit. I can make a game in a day about stacking blocks, but since they are called NARUTO BLOCKS the game is therefore easier to develop!

I meant that it's easier to use borrowed ideas than to come up with your own.

The other you can legally make money off of.
In the real world, yes, but on a tiny website like this, good luck making over 10$ unless your game is freaking fantastic. Not every single non-profit developer is interested in profits, in fact very few.

My game is 'freaking fantastic.' I've made probably somewhere over $100. Though, I was strictly non-profit and only used the money to pay for the server hosting it. Found out that was illegal. T.T Stopped doing that.
#10 Aug 18 2011, 8:54 pm
So the difference here is that you took someone else's idea, made an exact copy of it, and then made money off of it. That's not a fan-game, that's a legal mess.

Do understand, however, what I mean by saying that games such as Naruto GOA are by definition original GAMES. GOA's action based game-play was made by a real, decent game designer. It was so good for its genre that it has taken 5 years for something to match up to it(Eternia).

GOA's atmosphere is completely fan-made. All the visuals are made by legit artists who spent a lot of time working on them. Why? Because it was probably Masterdan's dream to see this come to life.

BYOND draws in many aspiring game developers because of it's "Build your dreams" theme. But it's not drawing in game developers. It's drawing in atmosphere developers.

Understanding the difference between atmosphere and game-play is the core to understanding how to design a decent game.
#11 Aug 18 2011, 8:55 pm
Why can't we all just agree to disagree? ):
#12 Aug 18 2011, 8:56 pm
Secretly, I used to make fan games. (Shocking, I know!)
I was being quite sarcastic, here.
(As in, it's not actually shocking at all.)
#13 Aug 18 2011, 11:14 pm
Albro1 wrote:
Mine doesn't require much concept. It really does fit the Guild's description: Simple. Hahah.

The concept of simplicity doesn't refer to the game, but how the game is created ;)
#14 Aug 18 2011, 11:17 pm
Touche.
#15 Aug 18 2011, 11:20 pm
Hence the name "Simple Developments" instead of "Simple Games"... =D
#16 Aug 19 2011, 4:19 am
Oasiscircle wrote:
Why can't we all just agree to disagree? ):

Whats the fun in that?
#17 Aug 19 2011, 5:50 am
Fangames are fun, when they're about something I'm actually a fan of.
#18 Aug 20 2011, 3:18 am
Yut Put wrote:
It always makes me angry ...

If you're getting angry about something online then you need to take a step back and calm down. It's just the internet. Causing a flame war about it won't solve anything and will just upset more people. Do you really want to be "that guy"?