Something weird in the neighborhood. in Off Topic

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Oct 22 2008, 6:41 pm
Keywords: whatthefrickman
A little disturbing thing I found... Apparently a resource extraction list from someone named 'Rob'. Was that the name of the DarkWizard guy? Either way, some peculiar stuff. Seems to have been posted 2 days ago.

http://ja.pastebin.ca/1225642

Apparently Mitadake and Sigrogana got extracted, which is really weird because I haven't actually sent the SL host files to anyone but one person, so I don't really know how they could've gotten the .rsc.

Unfortunately several other games seem to have gotten it too; Proelium, P2, DNO, Seika, etc. I dunno how this makes me feel. On the one hand I am disturbed because I felt I had a relatively good security on at least one of my games, which seems to have been for naught, and I don't think the person who I have host it would send the host files to anyone else. I am also a little upset about how easy it seems to be to pull files from the .rsc, taking less than a second for even big games.

Going to go ahead and save a copy of this page just in case the person who posted it finds it and tries to take it down, so let me know if you can't access the page anymore and I'll post it.
#1 Oct 22 2008, 6:43 pm
Damn.
#2 Oct 22 2008, 7:07 pm
Sure your host is trustworthy?
#3 Oct 22 2008, 7:08 pm
Fairly. It's possible but it really doesn't seem like something he'd do or have any reason to do, so I doubt he did.
#4 Oct 22 2008, 7:20 pm
Holy shit. Just holy shit. This can either be fake, or the WORST thing to come to BYOND since Masterdan.
#5 Oct 22 2008, 7:27 pm
The client has to download the RSC from the server in order to display the resources. It's nothing new.
#6 Oct 22 2008, 7:29 pm
<--(10:25 pm) T3h B4tman: regarding your post about rsc extraction; having the actual host files aren't needed. simply logging into the game downloads a temporary copy of the rsc to your computer which can then be used for extraction.

just thought I'd point that out to help avoid some possible tension between your host and you.

---

Allright, that makes me feel better, somewhat.
#7 Oct 22 2008, 7:32 pm
Duelmaster409 wrote:
Holy shit. Just holy shit. This can either be fake, or the WORST thing to come to BYOND since Masterdan.

Eh, Masterdan does all right, cur the guy some slack.

And stop over-dramatising. Resource extraction is nothing new. Every game on BYOND that is playable (host files or no) can have it's icons extracted from your byond.rsc. It's just a fact of life, deal with it.

In due course, the developers might place in an encryption of some kind (any level of encryption would fool DarkWizard, guy's an idiot) so that'll kill all currently usable RSC Extractors. But there's no guarantee this will happen, or happen in the near future.
#8 Oct 22 2008, 7:34 pm
You're still talking actually effort on the part of the individual to write a game around these graphics.
#9 Oct 22 2008, 7:48 pm
Well, no matter what you do you can't stop professional or casual hackers.. Meh.

(Hackers don't equal War Games style binary hacking.)
#10 Oct 22 2008, 8:34 pm
Except the guy you're talking about is neither. He ported someone else's work from C++ to C#.
#11 Oct 22 2008, 8:46 pm
I don't know if anyone has said this, but I don't care. You are an idiot, there. Anyone can get the damn RSC to a game..
#12 Oct 22 2008, 8:55 pm
Yammen wrote:
I don't know if anyone has said this, but I don't care. You are an idiot, there. Anyone can get the damn RSC to a game..

Thanks.
#13 Oct 22 2008, 9:58 pm
Now, now, there's no reason to insult the guy.

Being concerned about graphics and audio is natural. A forum search would have concluded that this kind of thing isn't abnormal, but still, cut the guy some slack.

Today is, after all, Be Excellent to Each other day. (No, it isn't really, but I'm just remembering Bill and Ted, so I'm making today "Be Excellent to Each Other" day. Just because I can...)
#14 Oct 22 2008, 10:14 pm
Duelmaster409 wrote:
(Hackers don't equal War Games style binary hacking.)

He's not a hacker. He's not even a cracker. Hell, I doubt if he's competent enough to be a script kiddie. He's just a moron with nothing to do, and an obsession and grudge rolled into one.
#15 Oct 23 2008, 4:19 am
If I recall correctly, Sigrogana Legend uses RPG Maker graphics. So is it really a big deal that someone extracted the rsc file? All they got was resources that were already free.
#16 Oct 23 2008, 12:16 pm
Yammen wrote:
I don't know if anyone has said this, but I don't care. You are an idiot, there. Anyone can get the damn RSC to a game..

Do you deliberatly make comments like this, as if you're more competant than said person?

At this point, your posts aren't worth the read.
#17 Oct 23 2008, 1:22 pm
I'm more concerned about other games than mine, Mikau, since most of the graphics are, like you said, RPG Maker/public use. Though, there are quite a few hand-drawn monsters that someone donated that I would be a little upset to see elsewhere. But it's not a huge deal for me, at least.
#18 Oct 28 2008, 4:46 pm
RPG makers arent public use? its illegal to use them in any other game that isnt made in the program itself...
#19 Oct 28 2008, 7:10 pm
Kamrusepas wrote:
RPG makers arent public use? its illegal to use them in any other game that isnt made in the program itself...

Resources for RPG maker are in the public domain however. The graphics that are released with RPG Maker may be off limits, but the resources free to download for the program itself, are not.
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