Okay, one of these bases is from a game, the other is one I made. I'm not here to contest that, so please just leave that out of your thought process. I'm having trouble with some people stating the base I feel inferior is superior, which is nerve-racking. I need backup from an artistic community to have some leverage in the discussion.
Anywho:
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The base to the left is Base 'A', the one on the right is base 'B'.
PLEASE do not go "base "A/B" is from "game", this isn't about that.
Thanks as always,
-DP
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 Jan 30 2010, 7:47 am
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I typically don't use vulgarity, but you sir, are a fucking idiot.
It's not an edit by any means. How you got that it was an edit is "byond" me. I'm not learning how, I know how. I've worked for several games. I don't need to rip, or learn from some pillow shaded sack of shit excuse for a base. Believe me, if I needed to look at how to do pixel art, I'd look for better sources of inspiration(Amon is a genius IMHO). Don't pander me off as some ripper looking at this game and salivating, because you're only showing your true colors(as a fucking moron). I'm not getting pissed because "LOL U GOT ME GUD" either, I'm frustrated at your lack of ability to grasp a concept I thought I had explained clearly and concisely. However, I managed to botch this attempt because I misjudged the severity of stupidity on this forum(namely you). I thought the PAS had more intelligence that what you've demonstrated, and I hope someone else here can redeem you. God have mercy on your soul. | |
While both of those could use some work, I'm going to have to give it to base A, but not without critique on both of them.
On both A and B there is a lack of a consistant lightsource. If you're going to shade on one side, you will want to slightly darken the other side, this goes for the feet aswell. Colors. On A, there could be one more color, lighter than the rest to help with showing the lightsource. Besides that, the colors both need more contrast and alittle more saturation. The outline on base A definitely needs to be abit darker aswell. I'd even suggest AAing with a darker color to help with that. Shading on both of these bases is more or less messy and should be cleaned up. Base B is worse for obvious reasons (alot of pillow shading,weird chest lines etc.) That said, lets keep from using insults on this forum, i dont care who you are or how mad you are or what the other person said, this isnt the place for that. Whether you were accused of something or not, be civil about it. And in the future, dont post someone elses work up here and insult it. | |
Disturbed Puppy wrote:
Okay, one of these bases is from a game, the other is one I made. I'm not here to contest that, so please just leave that out of your thought process. I'm having trouble with some people stating the base I feel inferior is superior, which is nerve-racking. I need backup from an artistic community to have some leverage in the discussion.  Sorry to say but Base B is far much better then Base A in many ways which ill list : 1. Base A is way to Blocky looks more like you put boxes together then added a Circle. 2. Base B has Good Contrast and a Good Palette to Bring out the Base, While Base A Does not Define a Light source from what I'm seeing or has a Good Palette and the Colors need contrast. 3. Also looks like you used Base B as your Reference Seeing how the style is almost alike but of course that could be just a Coincidence. To Conclude this i would Say Base A is Inferior to Base B. Ps. You should really try to watch your tongue on these forums when someone points out a Detail that of course can be true considering your Fighting if it's inferior. | |
Yeah, that's my fault. I'll take the blame, although the source of aggression comes from the girlfriend drinking the remainder of the coffee in the house this morning, and although I went out and bought some, it hadn't settled in when I got back and saw I was being accused of editing someone else's base, that I think may have been made after my base was.
Myy waterloo has always been muddling the colors, I don't know why, but I never get the contrast quite right. I'll probably post another thread with that since the guy who made the BLN base is convinced his base isn't pillow shaded, and mine looks generic..and that my states sucked despite never seeing them. After I get this one to where I like it, I'll look for a game...but thats another section of the forums altogether lol. My deal with making one side darker is that I don't want the palette to have too many colors, I like to keep things simple, but I get what you're saying. Thanks for the CC as always. | |
3. Also looks like you used Base B as your Reference Seeing how the style is almost alike but of course that could be just a Coincidence. How is the style similar? I mean really, how is it similar? Is it the feet? No, its not that. Is it the midsection? No....they aren't even similar. Is it the shoulders or arms? No, that can't be right either. The hands? Still no. The head? Possibly, but in reality there's only one real way to make a head, and even so A is smaller. ....So it's similar, and people think B was used as inspiration.....because of the hair. Lovely. Like I said before, this thing is well over 2 years old. I haven't done any pixel work since then really, so like I thought it needed improvements, I knew that from the starting block. However, it is definitely NOT based on B, they don't look similar from my POV. | |
Phantom260 wrote:
Disturbed Puppy wrote: Both of them are blocky, Base A is actually more proportional in that it not only has shoulders, but the beginnings of hands, while B lacks both of those things. B also has a huge problem which effects everything from the animations to the clothing, and that problem is being made an even number of tiles wide. Because of that, you need 2 pixels to create a middle for it, while A has a clear middle. 2. Base B has Good Contrast and a Good Palette to Bring out the Base, While Base A Does not Define a Light source from what I'm seeing or has a Good Palette and the Colors need contrast. What? Base B has a better outline than A, But is by no means good. As for lightsource, do you even know what a lightsource is? Or what pillow shading is? The palette on B(Which looks to be many more colors than needed) doesnt bring out any definition what so ever on the base, and there is no lightsource on B either, unless you consider pillowshading to be a good lightsource. B not only has too many colors, but they're all used poorly. its because of those colors that the overall contrast is bad aswell. the random color on the feet outline doesnt help either. 3. Also looks like you used Base B as your Reference Seeing how the style is almost alike but of course that could be just a Coincidence. The only similarities between these bases, are the hairstyles, which are the same. (why that is, id like to know myself, is it for comparison purposes or something?) | |
Pmitch wrote:
The only similarities between these bases, are the hairstyles, which are the same. (why that is, id like to know myself, is it for comparison purposes or something?) Yeah, the comment was made that it would be too "time consuming" to move the hair from B to A, and so I showed them it takes little to no time to do since the width is only 1 tile off, and I think the height is identical. | |
My two cents :D, plus if you want to learn how to state the base/object look on the Bleach Las noches base you got there and learn from that, simples ;D.