In response to O-matic (#33)
i never stole anything it was free and i had permission of the renders maker
In response to Ter13 (#34)
do you not read have i not sed above that the person who made the renders put them on a forum for every one to use as much as they wanted in anyway they wanted?
In response to Elation (#31)
i agree with you lol for example i think my mam's opininon that i should have to go to college more than 2 days a week is crap
In response to FinalFantasyGamer (#23)
I drew a funneh pic of naruto on ma laptop and im gunna try and put that into a siggy later hopefully it will look good
In response to King-manga-man (#41)
That's not what he's talking about. Ter is talking about the use of Naruto characters in your signatures. You probably don't have the rights to use them in your signatures.
In response to Data-Con (#44)
no your right i dont and i think i have already sed sorry for claiming them as mine
In response to FinalFantasyGamer (#38)
FinalFantasyGamer wrote:
I have no reason to be embarassed. That's great he can draw. I am just sick of him calling everyone theifs. It's people like him who push communities apart. Say what ever the hell you want to about me or this, I don't care, I don't feel like arguing. I have lotsa more to say but I'm mature to know when enough is enough.

And yet, can't tell an artist from a thief. Xooxer's quite right. The word "render" would suggest this is entirely original artwork run through a program to create it from base data, but it is not. The author took someone else's picture and added trendy stuff to it.

Ok maybe I can see where you guys are coming from, but you could have said it nicer, being I believe he said he was a beginner.

A beginner would create their own crappy work, from which they could learn and go on to create less crappy work, then eventually good work. For taking someone else's material and running filters over it, there's not exactly a learning curve involved.

Lummox JR
In response to King-manga-man (#41)
King-manga-man wrote:
do you not read have i not sed above that the person who made the renders put them on a forum for every one to use as much as they wanted in anyway they wanted?

Did you happen to miss the part where Ter explained what the word "render" means? You can't call those images renders because they were not rendered. Those are simple 2D art, either drawn and scanned or else drawn with a tool for making such art. A render is the conversion of data (not necessarily in 3D) to an image representing it, like with ray-tracers and other programs which mostly are in the 3D realm.

Lummox JR
In response to King-manga-man (#41)
Must've missed it, doesn't void my point, though. ;P Should've at least listed credit to the artist.
it's hardly pointless. It has changed my view on banners and such, and I realize I'd rather have a crappy looking banner than a ripped one.

Lots others will see this view/idea and adapt it to their lives, bcause it's respectable, and a good way to be thinking.
In response to Xooxer (#8)
excellent rant, except nobody was claiming to be an artist. its just a "sig" that will probably be used on some naruto message board. they're just fans showing appreciation, like a sports fan wearing a jersey of his favorite player.
In response to OneFishDown (#50)
God, I love when OFD owns people.
In response to Lummox JR (#47)
Just to be pedantic, a render can also be hand drawn (hand rendered) as is common in architectural and interior design. Generally, such a render is based on a blueprint and helps to give an idea of what the result will look like. CAD/CAM programs can also provide a computer render and multiple views.

Of course, in online use a rendered image almost always refers to a computer generated image, generally produced with 3d imaging software (though, as LummoxJR points out this need not be the case). And a composite or filtered image produced from the works of others is in no way a render- in any sense of the word.
In response to King-manga-man (#42)
You are in college, yet you only show up for classes two days each week? No wonder why you cannot spell. You should listen to what she said. Not "sed." Elation is totally right about what he just said too.
In response to Exophus (#53)
Exophus wrote:
You are in college, yet you only show up for classes two days each week? No wonder why you cannot spell. You should listen to what she said. Not "sed." Elation is totally right about what he just said too.

Nah, I don't go to school much either and I can spell just feign...

(It's funny because I used that joke before)


In response to XzDoG (#51)
lol i thought people had stoped posting on this
In response to Jon Snow (#49)
you talk about some random crap like i thought we ended this convo like a week ago some one delete it or something
In response to Jmurph (#52)
heh you sound abit like my brother lol hes into all that architectural stuff also
In response to Exophus (#53)
i was using a short-cut and, i am only in 2 days a week because the teachers decided to cut it down from 4 days a week to 2 but double the amount of time we spend in on those 2 days......... plus i wouldnt have been able to get on the course i am on if i had not been able to spell as you need good english language, literature and maths to get on the course.
In response to Elation (#54)
lol you sounded like Karren out of the show will and grace there......
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