image override var in BYOND Discussion

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May 15 2011, 4:34 pm
Okay, so in the latest version there's this new feature:

A new atom var, override, can be applied to images to make them appear in place of the atom's normal icon and overlays. This can be used to give a custom appearance for any atom to only certain players.

From this page: http://www.byond.com/docs/notes/482.html

But, that's either poorly worded or just wrong.
The way the override var actually works, is essentially as a boolean, when true, it replaces (as mentioned) the icon of the image's loc var. (So, you still have to set the image's loc for it to work, and it uses that loc as the atom it replaces.)

I didn't post this as a bug report, because it doesn't seem like a bug, per se.

Just thought I should point this out.
I don't know if Lummox JR will see this post anytime soon, though.
#1 May 15 2011, 4:40 pm
What were you expecting? For the override variable to hold the atom who's icon it was overriding?

The actual reference entry is a bit better worded:

"If you attach an image to an atom, normally it is seen only in addition to the atom's regular icon. If the image's override var is 1, it will be seen in place of the original atom (and its overlays). "

Although, it doesn't appear the online reference has been updated yet.
#2 May 15 2011, 4:42 pm (Edited on May 15 2011, 4:51 pm)
In response to DarkCampainger (#1)
DarkCampainger wrote:
What were you expecting? For the override variable to hold the atom who's icon it was overriding?

The actual reference entry is a bit better worded:

"If you attach an image to an atom, normally it is seen only in addition to the atom's regular icon. If the image's override var is 1, it will be seen in place of the original atom (and its overlays). "

Although, it doesn't appear the online reference has been updated yet.

Oh, I see.
Actually, I like the actual way it works, it is handy.

I can't seem to find anything about it in the reference, though.
If I could, I wouldn't bother going to the release notes page.
Maybe I just need to clear my cache files.
#3 May 15 2011, 4:50 pm
In response to Naokohiro (#2)
Naokohiro wrote:
Oh, I see.
Actually, I like the actual way it works, it is handy.

I can't seem to find anything about it in the reference, though.
If I could, I wouldn't bother going to the release notes page.
Maybe I just need to clear my cache files.

It's not online yet, but it is in the offline reference (F1 in Dream Maker)
#4 May 15 2011, 4:52 pm
In response to DarkCampainger (#3)
DarkCampainger wrote:
Naokohiro wrote:
Oh, I see.
Actually, I like the actual way it works, it is handy.

I can't seem to find anything about it in the reference, though.
If I could, I wouldn't bother going to the release notes page.
Maybe I just need to clear my cache files.

It's not online yet, but it is in the offline reference (F1 in Dream Maker)

Yeah, I understood that. (I know what the reference is.)

I tried clearing my cache.
It doesn't do anything.
The reference still has no mention anywhere of the override var.
(Not in the least the entry you mentioned.)
Any idea how I can fix this?
#5 May 15 2011, 4:54 pm
In response to Naokohiro (#4)
Are you sure you have the latest BYOND version?
#6 May 15 2011, 4:55 pm
In response to DarkCampainger (#5)
Yes. I was just using that feature. XD
I think this may turn into an actual bug report.
#7 May 15 2011, 7:15 pm
In response to Naokohiro (#6)
Are you sure you're looking in the right place? I have no problem finding it in the F1 Reference. Trying searching it or looking under atom/var.
#8 May 16 2011, 3:27 am
In response to Mega fart cannon (#7)
It's not him. I find that BYOND rarely overwrites the help file. It's not in mine either. New features rarely are.
#9 May 16 2011, 3:37 am
In response to ACWraith (#8)
ACWraith wrote:
It's not him. I find that BYOND rarely overwrites the help file. It's not in mine either. New features rarely are.

You guys should fill out a bug report. Maybe between the two of you, you can find a common thread.
#10 May 16 2011, 5:56 am
In response to DarkCampainger (#9)
Naokohiro did as he said and I responded. I was just trying to nip cries of user error in the bud. ;)
#11 May 16 2011, 8:16 am
In response to DarkCampainger (#9)
What operating system do you guys use?
The both of us with the problem are using Windows 7/Vista 64-bit.
(Which seems like a pattern.)
#12 May 16 2011, 1:45 pm (Edited on May 16 2011, 2:00 pm)
In response to Naokohiro (#11)
Naokohiro wrote:
What operating system do you guys use?
The both of us with the problem are using Windows 7/Vista 64-bit.
(Which seems like a pattern.)

I'm running Windows 7 Pro 32-bit. Are you thinking it's a 64-bit issue?

My laptop is running Windows 7 Pro 64-bit, I'll try updating it and seeing if it has the latest reference.

<edit>

Nope, update appeared to work fine.

Could it be an embedded browser issue? Did you clear the cache of Internet Explorer as well? Or just your default browser?
#13 May 17 2011, 8:08 am
In response to DarkCampainger (#12)
I have cleared both my Firefox and Internet Explorer caches and I still have the problem.
I think the problem might be caused from ever having one of the older builds of BYOND installed, hence why installing it on a clean computer doesn't have the bug.

Even completely uninstalling and removing it, then reinstalling it cleanly doesn't fix the problem, so I assume there's some sort of residual information left, even when it's uninstalled.
(I even deleted the C:\Program Files (x86)\BYOND folder after uninstalling, so the residual information is stored somewhere else.)
#14 May 17 2011, 10:25 am
In response to Naokohiro (#13)
If the installer is having trouble overwriting the help files for some reason, my advice would be to overwrite them manually by downloading the .zip file instead of the .exe version.