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#1 Jan 20 2006, 3:31 pm
Jon88	Soccerguy13 wrote: I am setting up a SSH server onto my computer. I intend to use it with a client while at school to bypass the local firewall. Before I waste my time, will this work? It depends on how locked down your school network is, how smart the network admins are, whether they care or not, etc.

#2 Jan 20 2006, 3:51 pm
XzDoG	Proxy, learn to use them.

#3 Jan 20 2006, 4:10 pm In response to XzDoG (#2)
Jon88	XzDoG wrote: Proxy, learn to use them. SSH with PuTTY as a client can be set up as a SOCKS proxy with a limited amount of clicking. The question is whether SSH will work or not.

#4 Jan 20 2006, 8:47 pm
Airjoe	I suggest running the SSH server on por 80 if you don't already have a website going. I know my school won't connect to anything that isn't port 80.

#5 Jan 21 2006, 8:09 am

In response to Airjoe (#4)

digitalmouse

Airjoe wrote:

I suggest running the SSH server on por 80 if you don't already have a website going. I know my school won't connect to anything that isn't port 80.

...which probably won't help him much if he wants to use his home computer to access parts of the internet that the school has blocked.

but if he just needs to access files on his home computer, then that will work fine. and for ease of use in grabbing files remotely (without using a shell), try http://www.i-tree.org/gpl/ixplorer.htm or http://winscp.net/ .

to actually use an internet browser from your computer remotely, better off with http://www.realvnc.com/ or http://www.tightvnc.com/

#6 Jan 21 2006, 8:53 am

In response to digitalmouse (#5)

Jon88

digitalmouse wrote:

Airjoe wrote:

I suggest running the SSH server on por 80 if you don't already have a website going. I know my school won't connect to anything that isn't port 80.

...which probably won't help him much if he wants to use his home computer to access parts of the internet that the school has blocked.

PuTTY can be set up as a SOCKS proxy, so if he has access to change those settings in his webbrowser it should work.

#7 Jan 21 2006, 11:19 am

In response to Jon88 (#6)

digitalmouse

Airjoe wrote:

I suggest running the SSH server on port 80 if you don't already have a website going. I know my school won't connect to anything that isn't port 80.

digitalmouse wrote:

...which probably won't help him much if he wants to use his home computer to access parts of the internet that the school has blocked.

Jon88 wrote:

PuTTY can be set up as a SOCKS proxy, so if he has access to change those settings in his webbrowser it should work.

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what i was referring to was that if he accesses his home computer over SSH on port 80, then the port is tied to SSH, and HTTP (webpage) requests won't work so well (if at all) - as far as i know two protocols trying to use the same port (school/ssh-client:80 -> home/ssh-server:80 -> home/internet-browser:80) won't work very well.

better bet is to just stick to school-work at school, and play at home. simplest way to stay out of trouble instead of trying to circumvent the school's restrictions.

#8 Jan 21 2006, 3:00 pm

In response to digitalmouse (#7)

Crispy

digitalmouse wrote:

what i was referring to was that if he accesses his home computer over SSH on port 80, then the port is tied to SSH, and HTTP (webpage) requests won't work so well (if at all) - as far as i know two protocols trying to use the same port (school/ssh-client:80 -> home/ssh-server:80 -> home/internet-browser:80) won't work very well.

HTTP requests can be made from any port; the source and destination ports don't need to be the same. How else do you suppose that computers running web servers can themselves access the web? =) (I'm running a web server on port 80 right now, and I'm accessing byond.com just fine.)

better bet is to just stick to school-work at school, and play at home. simplest way to stay out of trouble instead of trying to circumvent the school's restrictions.

But that's no fun. ;-)

#9 Jan 21 2006, 3:04 pm In response to Crispy (#8)
Jon88	Crispy wrote: better bet is to just stick to school-work at school, and play at home. simplest way to stay out of trouble instead of trying to circumvent the school's restrictions. But that's no fun. ;-) But it does prevent getting in trouble, detention, suspension, expulsion, or being charged criminally for "hacking" if the school administrators are crazy like that.

#10 Jan 21 2006, 4:29 pm In response to XzDoG (#2)
CaptFalcon33035	Actually, a lot of the schools will block out proxies. My school blocks out Internet Options in IE, online CGI proxies, and most of the commands you can use, really.

#11 Jan 21 2006, 7:09 pm In response to CaptFalcon33035 (#10)
DarkCampainger	My school went mad with admin, and you can't even right click on the desktop now :/ Of course, you can still change the background image with the left toolbar thingy if you have it in your documents... Just not back... Kinda funny.

#12 Jan 22 2006, 1:45 pm In response to DarkCampainger (#11)
Hazman	Heh, my school went pretty mad like that too. The worst part is that they recently installed a new filter so I can't even fuel my incessent airsoft habit anymore. AIRSOFT IS A SPORT! SHOOTING EACH OTHER IS NOT A CRIME! Oh, wait...

#13 Jan 23 2006, 11:16 am
Soccerguy13	This failed! :'(. Thanks for everyone's advice.

#14 Jan 23 2006, 11:56 am

In response to Soccerguy13 (#13)

XzDoG

Gain the administrator account through cracking, this can get you in to trouble but let me tell you a story.

Last year me and a few friends could not install anything in the root directory of the computers, hide games on the network etc. So what did we do? We cracked the administrator password and opened things up for ourselves like allowing our accounts administrator access. A few of us got caught and suspended but we still do it, just becarefull... my one pal got charged with hacking / cracking a goverment server because the schools in america are goverment run.

#15 Jan 23 2006, 2:45 pm In response to XzDoG (#14)
Soccerguy13	I'm not quite willing to go that far just to play some games and get instant messaging access.

#16 Jan 23 2006, 9:51 pm

In response to Jon88 (#9)

Hiead

Jon88 wrote:

But it does prevent getting in trouble, detention, suspension, expulsion, or being charged criminally for "hacking" if the school administrators are crazy like that.

Jon88 teh kill-joy. I love doing things for fun, and often don't think about the real-world consequences(of which I've found plenty). You don't NOT jump off a building or broken-down train just because you might hurt your feet, or else you'll end up always asking "What if?" ....Or some such like that.

Live for the moment, it leaves faster than you think.

Hiead

#17 Jan 25 2006, 12:55 pm

In response to DarkCampainger (#11)

CaptFalcon33035

My school has this too. It is quite annoying, as well. I can't do a lot of things without right-clicking, because I dunoo how. =(

You know, you can simply make a CGI-router site, or use one already made.

http://formetopoopon.com

It's pronounced "For me to poop on" and still hasn't made it so the pages you visit have links that the router handles, like instead if http://byond.com, it would be something like http://formetopoopon.com/index.cgi?url=http://byond.com

I dunno. But it's still pretty cool.

#18 Jan 25 2006, 1:32 pm In response to Hiead (#16)
Elation	Hiead wrote: Jon88 teh kill-joy. I love doing things for fun, and often don't think about the real-world consequences(*of which I've found plenty*). You sort of owned yourself, there.

#19 Jan 26 2006, 6:36 am In response to Soccerguy13 (#15)
King Gunnerblast	I almost got caught yesterday...lots of people are installing Halo on the computers...and the Network admin are finding out that we are playing and are ready to inform the principal, but let it go this time =) I have an SSH server running, but the school's firewall keeps me from gaining access. The same probably would happen to you.(soccerguy)