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#20 Jul 10 2006, 3:40 pm (Edited on Jul 10 2006, 3:50 pm)
In response to Talion Knight (#19)
Good god man, it works! Seems the IE controls don't work, no big surprize, but is there a fix for that? I am currently testing it out, hopefully it will function correctly for the most part.


[edit]
Well, it ran, but I got an "Assertion failed" error whenever joining a game or sending a page.

Error goes as follows:
 ________________________________________________
|                Exception raised                |
|------------------------------------------------|
| \ /   Assertion failed at address 0xffffe410.  |
|  X    Do you wish to debug it?                 |
| / \   [Yes]         [No]                       |
|________________________________________________|


Any idea? I am going to try a computer restart to see what happens.
#21 Jul 10 2006, 3:50 pm (Edited on Jul 10 2006, 3:56 pm)
In response to Danial.Beta (#20)
Nah, you can however download the Mozilla ActiveX controls from wine - open up DreamMaker and press F1 it should tell you that the program is requesting an ActiveX and ask if you want to download it.

PS: I don't hear laughter... :(

Edit your post while I'm typing, why don't you!

instead of an actual reboot try a wineboot
#22 Jul 10 2006, 4:01 pm
In response to Talion Knight (#21)
I am faily sure the error and crash following is caused by the rich controls. On a test world I did this:

mob/Login()
   world<<"1234567890 1234567890"


In that example, running DS got as far as outputting 1234567890 on the screen. But in this test:

mob/Login()
   world<<"12345678901234567890"//no space


It errors after finishing all of the string. My guess is that certain characters are hanging it up. In this case it would be space and \n.
#23 Jul 10 2006, 4:05 pm (Edited on Jul 10 2006, 4:13 pm)
In response to Danial.Beta (#22)
If some of the richtext characters are hanging/crashing I suggest grabbing Riched32.dll from http://www.dlldump.com and seeing if it works with that. (Don't delete Riched20.dll though)

or setting Wine's config for Riched20.dll to native as opposed to builtin.

[EDIT] Both versions of that code works fine with my DS, how strange
#24 Jul 10 2006, 4:42 pm
In response to Scoobert (#4)
Scoobert wrote:
There is no way in hell it is as simple as a few DLLs, if it is, I will laugh my butt off at everyone for not figuring this out faster. I will test this tonight and possibly have DS running, only a little time will tell.

It is, but those DLLs are copyrighted by Microsoft. Legal issues could ensue.
#25 Jul 10 2006, 4:45 pm
In response to Jon88 (#24)
I bet, but I have a windows partition I could <.< harp them off of.

I got it working, at least the pager is nearlly %100 working, I just need to get that mozilla control he mentioned. I just joined LRS, and so far no crashy. Everything execpt for IE controls seem to be working.
#26 Jul 10 2006, 4:49 pm
In response to Jon88 (#24)
No they couldn't, The DLLs are freely available on the web :p
#27 Jul 10 2006, 4:51 pm
In response to Talion Knight (#26)
Well, they couldn't blame BYOND(exept maybe for supporting them), but they could crack down on that website. Those are made by Microsoft and I doubt Microsoft gave them distrobution rights. However, most of us do have access to a windows machine or two, so getting these DLLs might not be too hard. I would suggest trying to find out exactly what DLLs are required and possibly writing a copy script for people to just throw a jumpdrive on a winXP or 98 machine and get the DLLs.
#28 Jul 10 2006, 5:24 pm
In response to Danial.Beta (#27)
Umm, there's more than one website that host DLLs, Cedega and Wine both host them through their respective CVS repositories.
#29 Jul 10 2006, 5:28 pm
In response to Talion Knight (#28)
Well, it depends on who made the DLLs. Wine makes their own, not relying on Microsoft's DLLs. In this case, someone has put the ones Microsoft created up for direct download. This is where the legal issues lie.
#30 Jul 10 2006, 5:31 pm
In response to Danial.Beta (#29)
Indeed that is true, though as you stated previously most of us here have access to a windows partition/machine in some capacity.
#31 Jul 10 2006, 6:07 pm
Impressive, I wonder if that can be done using codeweavers mac port... :)
#32 Jul 10 2006, 6:09 pm
In response to Talion Knight (#30)
Well, MOST things in Dream Seeker work, it seems whenever I try to join a few games, dreamseeker crashes, but it mostly works.

Maybe a few people could make some kind of, installation tutorial for the rest of the people?

And BTW; Dream Maker still crashes when trying to go to Help On..
#33 Jul 10 2006, 6:12 pm
In response to Flame Sage (#32)
did you tell wine to use the native riched20 as opposed to the builtin?
#34 Jul 10 2006, 6:20 pm
In response to Talion Knight (#33)
rich20(native,builtin)
rich32(native,builtin)

How can I get the sound working?
It works in the pager, but no in DS.
#35 Jul 10 2006, 6:26 pm
In response to Flame Sage (#34)
Sound I'm not entirely sure on - I've got it working in some games perfectly and nothing in others, If a game is crashing it's most likely using a font that isn't on your fake windows drive, you can download TTF files from just about anywhere though. If a game still crashes It's possible it's calling another DLL that isn't installed. Speaking of which does anyone know a full list of the DLLs BYOND uses?

Maz: the winehq website says that wine can run under Mac OS X but as I don't own a Mac I can't be entirely sure of that
#36 Jul 10 2006, 6:52 pm
In response to Flame Sage (#34)
I have been able to get every game I tried to work, but I have not been able to get the Mozilla ActiveX replacement to work. I am not sure if I am doing something wrong or something, but it is a real pain. I have been working with it since about 8pm and it is now 11pm. I just think that the Mozilla ActiveX control doesn't want to work for me.
#37 Jul 10 2006, 8:04 pm
After installing and getting it running, I found a few problems.

1. Couldn't get the Mozilla ActiveX to replace the IE controls in the pager and DS.
2. Images in the RTF area seem to cause it to crash. Is there any easy way to toggle these? Wiz_Chat lets me turn them off, so no big dead there, but it does stop some games.

That is it so far. Besides that, they work like a charm.

Important notes: Make sure to make wine use the rich dll you downloaded, don't let it decide. Talion claims win98 mode is needed, but it didn't make a difference for me. To change these settings, try 'configure wine', 'wineconfigure', or 'winecfg'.
#38 Jul 11 2006, 1:37 pm
In response to Danial.Beta (#37)
got the pager up and running, but when joining a game DS starts, shows the 'logging in' text, then crashes about 20-30 seconds later.

so close!
#39 Jul 11 2006, 1:43 pm
In response to digitalmouse (#38)
Make sure you are forcing it to use the right rich dll. Also, seems HTML doesn't work in the rich text areas. This is minor, but a little annoying, I am running a few tests to see the full extent. This might have something to do with the version of the rich dll.
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