What a time to reconsider...

Well all of you know I'm working my best on getting a combat-ready testing session of FoL up and running by the 25th of this month, but today I had a great idea that would impose a bit of a snag.

Before...
The system works as of now, like so:
  • Upon character creation you pick a race, a name, and a primary style. All of these become static throughout the rest of the game, and as primary styles work you have access to everything in that style.
  • Later on you choose a secondary style from the primary styles, this would only allow you half of the glories of that style, but this is entirely dynamic and has no real effect on your primary style.
  • In the end you have 3 styles available. Basic style, Primary Style and your dynamic secondary style. Each of these styles has a mastery tree that you can dump points in every odd level to further customize your styles.


Problem: Secondary style and its mastery tree has a large chance of having nothing to do with your primary style or your corresponding gear/stats... Basically if you choose a primary your secondary choices are limited or become practically meaningless.

New idea...
I want to limit these 8 styles down to 4 basic styles to choose from. Melee, Ki, Speed and Support. (as opposed to the addition of hybrid styles which would mess up the whole secondary ideals). Generally it'd work the same at creation, you choose your primary and later on you learn your (still dynamic) secondary. This way however, I'd like to also allow you to choose your secondary from the same 4 basics, creating your own hybrid styles. In short, I want your secondary style to entirely influence your primary, mastery and all.

So say you decide you want to start out melee, later on you can choose a secondary of KI, and all of those KI abilities and mastery would influence or revolve around your melee. This way you could focus on certain stats rather than trying to build up everything at once. Basically it's a create your own class system.

Problem: This would take a little bit more time, not too long however, but I would need to tweak the system a little and change around skills, I'd say about another full week of pushback before testing.


Personally I'm leaning towards my new idea, only because it makes more sense in my eyes. But I'd still like to hear your opinions on the matter.

Posted by The Naked Ninja on Tuesday, July 14, 2009 05:47PM - 8 comments / Members say: yea +1, nay -0

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#8 Zamura:  

Ok one question, how did you get "Imagination Land" up there. I want to add something like that to my site but the html never fits in the box

Wednesday, July 22, 2009 09:23PM

#7 Riku 123q:  

I shall Submit suggestion on your forum. ;D

Wednesday, July 15, 2009 03:24PM

#6 The Naked Ninja:  

SuperSaiyanGokuX wrote:
> I really like the revised idea...
>
> Could you select the same skill for both primary and secondary, and wind up being ultra-specialized in that area, but therefore very weak in everything else?

Yes actually, say you wanted to go Melee + Melee focus. This would make way to more powerful strictly melee abilities, but would hinder in all other aspects. Melee + KI on the other hand would provide KI skills with a melee basis, closing the gap slightly on the ranged weakness you pay for with strict melee but the melee abilities wouldn't be as matched to a strictly melee opponent..
KI + Melee would in return provide some melee skills that are essentially of a KI nature, allowing for a little close-quarter combat but not entirely well matched with a KI + KI style set. However it would close the gap slightly as the reversed paring would, as strict KI is weak to close-quarter combat.

All players will have a skill or two of each of the 4 primaries within the basic style, kinda like a sample of the flavor before you progress further. Primary styles as of yet are undecided whether to have them chosen at creation, or a little after sampling with only the basic style...

I might be in need of more than an extra week, but the potential would be more beneficial and despite nay sayers I'd go in that direction either way.

Edit: The way I have the skill sets defined are in a rock<paper<scissors setup. Melee=rock, KI=paper, Speed=scissors. Support on the other hand is a fair match against all 3, since it focuses mostly on self preservation, but at the cost of little damage. I guess this could be a DBZ idea of a tank style.

Melee skill sets will focus on keeping your opponent close, dealing close-range damage and taking minimal melee damage.
KI skills will focus on the exact opposite, keeping opponents distanced while dealing ranged damage.
Speed skills will be more of a sneaky hit-and-run maneuver, focusing on distractions, ranged evasion and moderate melee damage.

Wednesday, July 15, 2009 02:12PM
(Edited on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 02:24PM)

#5 Riku 123q:  

Ahh Yes.
The Almight Buff.
Thats probably what I'll do, Be a super strong person. Rather than a fast and strong person.

Wednesday, July 15, 2009 12:19PM

#4 SuperSaiyanGokuX:  

I really like the revised idea...

Could you select the same skill for both primary and secondary, and wind up being ultra-specialized in that area, but therefore very weak in everything else?

Wednesday, July 15, 2009 07:05AM

#3 Pedantic:  

You have a wonderful imagination there Ken :O (Spot on guild)

Tuesday, July 14, 2009 10:58PM

#2 Goku super sayian 4:  

Riku 123q wrote:
> I think you should do this, It's an awesome idea. Who cares if you have to wait a little.
> As long as it's pwnage when it's out I support this idea.
> -OMGWTFPWNT Riku-

Hahaha, xD!

Tuesday, July 14, 2009 06:11PM

#1 Riku 123q:  

I think you should do this, It's an awesome idea. Who cares if you have to wait a little.
As long as it's pwnage when it's out I support this idea.
-OMGWTFPWNT Riku-

Tuesday, July 14, 2009 05:51PM

 

 

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#16 Gokou-Kun:  

One of the best talks everrr lol

Sunday, May 31, 2009 05:50PM

#15 The Naked Ninja:  

At one point he had 7 balls, but they got stolen :[

Tuesday, May 26, 2009 01:21AM

#14 Cyberlord34:  

Jeff8500 wrote:
> Cyberlord34 wrote:
> > That cant be frieza D: Its too manly, lawl. Id be more intimidated by Stewie ^
>
> Manly? He has no balls!

how do u know there not just tucked in xD/ for all we know that big tail could be a huge penus.

Monday, May 25, 2009 11:41PM

#13 Jeff8500:  

Cyberlord34 wrote:
> That cant be frieza D: Its too manly, lawl. Id be more intimidated by Stewie ^

Manly? He has no balls!

Monday, May 25, 2009 08:14PM

#12 Cyberlord34:  

That cant be frieza D: Its too manly, lawl. Id be more intimidated by Stewie ^

Saturday, May 23, 2009 12:31PM

#11 Maggeh:  

Renegade zebras don't compare to little rabid hotdogs.

Wednesday, May 20, 2009 06:21PM

#10 Evi of au:  

Don't forget about that time we went camping and got raided by a band of renegade zebras.

Don't you ever forget.

Tuesday, May 19, 2009 07:07AM

#9 HeavenlyFlow:  

Chris-g1 wrote:

> Pixel art society...


They had that up on their gallery before when I was looking through it. This was back when Tayoko wanted it, and they had an interview with Epic Games on GOW2 and it using ZBrush. The Frieza image was made using ZBrush, so just remembering it I suggested it.

Could be on PaS to.


Saturday, May 16, 2009 04:50PM

#8 Chris-g1:  

HeavenlyFlow wrote:
> The Naked Ninja wrote:
>
> >
> > I don't even remember where I found that pic.
> >
> >
> ZBrush?
>

Pixel art society...


Saturday, May 16, 2009 02:27PM

#7 HeavenlyFlow:  

The Naked Ninja wrote:

>
> I don't even remember where I found that pic.
>
>
ZBrush?

Saturday, May 16, 2009 02:18PM

#6 The Naked Ninja:  

Chris-g1 wrote:
> Shame nobody else does
> (Ohhh Burrrrrrrrrrrn)
>
> P.S. Frieza below looks roided up :P
>

I don't even remember where I found that pic.


Saturday, May 16, 2009 01:53PM

#5 Chris-g1:  

Son Danny wrote:
> The Naked Ninja wrote:
> > I love me.
>
> I love me to.

Shame nobody else does
(Ohhh Burrrrrrrrrrrn)

P.S. Frieza below looks roided up :P

Saturday, May 16, 2009 01:52PM

#4 Goku super sayian 4:  

DarrylX wrote:
> You have an Fantastic CSS sir!

Yeah, He does xP

Saturday, May 16, 2009 11:25AM

#3 DarrylX:  

You have an Fantastic CSS sir!

Saturday, May 16, 2009 03:26AM

#2 Son Danny:  

The Naked Ninja wrote:
> I love me.

I love me to.

Sunday, May 10, 2009 09:28AM

#1 The Naked Ninja:  

I love me.

Saturday, May 09, 2009 08:44AM

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