Alihafezi and I had a bit of a disagreement over Windows Live Messenger (MSN Messenger) concerning rips and non-rips. It was rather hypocritical of him considering his previous blog post:
During our argument, he repeatedly threatened to make a blog about our argument, which I personally didn't care about. Seeing as he didn't, I decided I'd go ahead and do so myself. I'll edit my post shortly to add our conversation. Stay tuned.
Alihafezi is "Avenged Chaos" and I'm "Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ®"
8/30/2008 2:34:42 AM Avenged Chaos - Main prince vegeta right?
8/30/2008 2:36:45 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - I am.
8/30/2008 2:37:00 AM Avenged Chaos - Well...
8/30/2008 2:37:07 AM Avenged Chaos - U better stop disrespectin me
8/30/2008 2:37:13 AM Avenged Chaos - Yea...
8/30/2008 2:37:37 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - I'm so intimidated by you I have no clue how to express it...
8/30/2008 2:37:56 AM Avenged Chaos - Why what did I ever do?
8/30/2008 2:38:28 AM Avenged Chaos - "I hae no clue how to express" hOW OLD ARE YOU?
8/30/2008 2:38:34 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - I haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about as far as disrespect.
8/30/2008 2:38:43 AM Avenged Chaos - i Am Alihafezi
8/30/2008 2:38:46 AM Avenged Chaos - On BYOND
8/30/2008 2:38:48 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - And I don't know what age has to do with this so that's really of no concern to you.
8/30/2008 2:38:52 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - And yes, I know who you are.
8/30/2008 2:39:21 AM Avenged Chaos - And as noticed you keep saying that my GFX is a joke...well let me tell you this..RR is probably one of the worst projects on BYOND ANIME
8/30/2008 2:39:28 AM Avenged Chaos - Last chance
8/30/2008 2:39:37 AM Avenged Chaos - Thats the real story its original and will be out
8/30/2008 2:39:45 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - I don't know what RR is.
8/30/2008 2:39:54 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - And I don't recall saying your graphics are a joke.
8/30/2008 2:40:00 AM Avenged Chaos - You trust me and trhe GFX that I make..Its good becuase its with Paint!
8/30/2008 2:40:30 AM Avenged Chaos - http://www.byond.com/members/ Alihafezi?command=view_post&post=46506
8/30/2008 2:41:00 AM Avenged Chaos - Well now Im back with Photoshop so please...keep it shut...
8/30/2008 2:41:30 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - First off, I don't take orders from you. So don't bother telling me to "keep it shut."
8/30/2008 2:41:50 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - Second, I never said your graphics were a joke. I said changing the colors of an image doesn't make you an "awesome" graphic artist.
8/30/2008 2:41:54 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - I'd learn to read if I were you.
8/30/2008 2:42:04 AM Avenged Chaos - Well...
8/30/2008 2:42:25 AM Avenged Chaos - By the looks of things I can tell that you are one guy with more vocab then age...
8/30/2008 2:42:54 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - Again, my age has nothing to do with anything.
8/30/2008 2:43:01 AM Avenged Chaos - Maturity is big problem on byond and 18 year old homeless people write spam on something that dint even include them in the slightest idea
8/30/2008 2:43:32 AM Avenged Chaos - You supported the "Slomber Preversion or RR" Just because One rule on the hub wasnt a "normal" rule
8/30/2008 2:43:41 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - I'm not 18. And if I were homeless, I highly doubt I'd be using a computer.
8/30/2008 2:43:51 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - And I didn't "support" anything. I agreed with it.
8/30/2008 2:43:55 AM Avenged Chaos - I ma not talking about you
8/30/2008 2:44:05 AM Avenged Chaos - The 18 year old thin
8/30/2008 2:44:10 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - The game was a rip; a poorly edited rip at that.
8/30/2008 2:44:39 AM Avenged Chaos - The game was a Beta an alpha as a matter of a fact it went down in 1 day because there were too many bugs!!!
8/30/2008 2:44:58 AM Avenged Chaos - So I decided to go original but thne I made a Wow server
8/30/2008 2:45:04 AM Avenged Chaos - So The game will be delayed
8/30/2008 2:45:11 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - It wouldn't have had that problem if someone didn't try to incorporate their own programming into stolen material.
8/30/2008 2:45:28 AM Avenged Chaos - The metrial was from Zen.
8/30/2008 2:45:43 AM Avenged Chaos - "zen" was passed out in the resources section
8/30/2008 2:46:07 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - "Zen" was based off Zeta. It was a rip, just like 99% of the other Dragon Ball Z games on BYOND.
8/30/2008 2:46:08 AM Avenged Chaos - So Shut Your Mouth Because You OInly Red The Hub And Barely played The Game
8/30/2008 2:46:26 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - Actually, I didn't read the hub at all. I read the review, which was pretty accurate.
8/30/2008 2:46:28 AM Avenged Chaos - Zeta is the ONLY original game oin byond
8/30/2008 2:46:33 AM Avenged Chaos - EVERYTHING started form Zeta
8/30/2008 2:46:45 AM Avenged Chaos - Theres no such thing as an original game
8/30/2008 2:46:50 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - Zeta isn't the only original game on BYOND. If you don't know the history of BYOND, I suggest you not make assumptions.
8/30/2008 2:46:59 AM Avenged Chaos - And Im gonna be the first to post one from scratch Even masterdan's game isnt original
8/30/2008 2:47:12 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - There are actually about 4 or 5 original Dragon Ball Z games on BYOND.
8/30/2008 2:47:27 AM Avenged Chaos - Name 4 Games form Scratch other the Chao chatterz something in ANIME
8/30/2008 2:47:38 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - But you wouldn't know that because you and the other Dragon Ball Z lovers on BYOND opt for stolen material rather than making anything original.
8/30/2008 2:48:07 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - Naruto GOA is original. Dragon Ball Online, Bleach Souls of Chaos, Bleach Las Noches, Dragon Ball Zeta.
8/30/2008 2:48:17 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - 5 examples of original anime games.
8/30/2008 2:48:28 AM Avenged Chaos - What ever I mean you dont seem to ge it...GOA is not original! It got a starter Code
8/30/2008 2:48:35 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - No it doesn't.
8/30/2008 2:48:52 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - Masterdan is the one who MADE the starter code from his own work, Naruto GOA.
8/30/2008 2:49:04 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - Again, if you don't know the history of BYOND, I suggest you not make foolish assumptions.
8/30/2008 2:49:14 AM Avenged Chaos - Theres no way ANYONE can strat from PURE scratch
8/30/2008 2:49:27 AM Avenged Chaos - I am the first to TRY
8/30/2008 2:49:31 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - I'm making a game which I started from pure scratch months ago.
8/30/2008 2:49:56 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - Just because you lack the potential to make an original game from scratch, doesn't mean everyone else is in the same boat.
8/30/2008 2:50:05 AM Avenged Chaos - The thing that sucks about "Original" Games are that the icons have no relations to The Anime Just random People
8/30/2008 2:50:12 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - Again, if you don't know the history of BYOND, I suggest you not make foolish assumptions.
8/30/2008 2:50:23 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - That's not true at all.
8/30/2008 2:50:28 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - Your statement makes no sense.
8/30/2008 2:50:49 AM Avenged Chaos - And Well That really says that they cant really Icon well or that they were too lazy to ASK someone to icon for them some one who can Icon goos
8/30/2008 2:50:51 AM Avenged Chaos - d
8/30/2008 2:50:52 AM Avenged Chaos - good
8/30/2008 2:51:07 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - Clearly you're not very intelligent. Ripped games with stolen content steal from original games. So how do original games have no relation to an anime?
8/30/2008 2:51:22 AM Avenged Chaos - GOA is the only good game for Icons Onslaught everythin it all has Suckish graphics
8/30/2008 2:51:31 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - That's your opinion.
8/30/2008 2:51:37 AM Avenged Chaos - Oblivion 2
8/30/2008 2:51:39 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - And frankly I don't really care about your opinion.
8/30/2008 2:51:44 AM Avenged Chaos - One of the most popular sources
8/30/2008 2:51:47 AM Avenged Chaos - STOELN
8/30/2008 2:51:54 AM Avenged Chaos - STOLEN
8/30/2008 2:51:58 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - Oblivion was also a ripped based off Zeta.
8/30/2008 2:52:04 AM Avenged Chaos - and the only thing that the owner had to say was "..."
8/30/2008 2:52:05 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - It's a modified Zeta rip.
8/30/2008 2:52:15 AM Avenged Chaos - Yea VERY HEZVILY modified
8/30/2008 2:52:26 AM Avenged Chaos - Legends reborn is ripped and gets 67 players per day
8/30/2008 2:52:47 AM Avenged Chaos - People dont cae if its ripped people care how you play and how others are...
8/30/2008 2:52:58 AM Avenged Chaos - Its not all about the "Ripping" of the games
8/30/2008 2:53:12 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - I don't care what all the other people care about.
8/30/2008 2:53:30 AM Avenged Chaos - if Masterdan was so smart He couldve had a form to fill and remove ripped games but why didnt he? Because If He Did Then There Would Be 2 Games On Byond ANime
8/30/2008 2:53:54 AM Avenged Chaos - http://www.byond.com/games/MysticDeath/dbgtroc
8/30/2008 2:53:56 AM Avenged Chaos - This game
8/30/2008 2:53:58 AM Avenged Chaos - RIPPED
8/30/2008 2:54:01 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - I'd rather make an original game (which I'm doing) than to be a follower like 95% of you BYONDers and rip games.
8/30/2008 2:54:03 AM Avenged Chaos - and Calimed to be origonal
8/30/2008 2:54:06 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - Again, I don't care.
8/30/2008 2:54:14 AM Avenged Chaos - It is an edited version of rebirth
8/30/2008 2:54:35 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - And Masterdan, with the help of a small group (myself included), is actually cracking down on rips right now and we've kicked out quite a few games from the guild.
8/30/2008 2:54:58 AM Avenged Chaos - Well thenyou can kiss Byond goodbye...
8/30/2008 2:55:06 AM Avenged Chaos - Explains why all the good games are gne...
8/30/2008 2:55:50 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - And the only reason we're not kicking out ALL of the rips is they bring BYOND money because greedy rip owners bribe their players with ranking boosts.
8/30/2008 2:56:08 AM Avenged Chaos - AHAHAHAH
8/30/2008 2:56:15 AM Avenged Chaos - So all ur in for is the money
8/30/2008 2:56:19 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - And we're kicking them out of the guild, not off BYOND. They'll still be playable. I just don't particularly care where they end up.
8/30/2008 2:56:23 AM Avenged Chaos - ALL COPY AND PASTE THIS NOW xD
8/30/2008 2:56:34 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - Actually I don't care about the money. I don't even take in any money from BYOND.
8/30/2008 2:56:46 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - You can copy and paste it all you want. It's already been said in the anime guild forums.
8/30/2008 2:56:51 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - Silly child.
8/30/2008 2:56:55 AM Avenged Chaos - Well I officialy quit byond because all their in for is the money I WANT A REFUND
8/30/2008 2:57:04 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - I don't care.
8/30/2008 2:57:22 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - Your quitting has no bearing on my life.
8/30/2008 2:57:24 AM Avenged Chaos - Pasted xD
8/30/2008 2:57:32 AM Avenged Chaos - Who acrez
8/30/2008 2:57:33 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - Again, I don't care. -_-
8/30/2008 2:57:46 AM Avenged Chaos - Byond is a basic 2D program I suggest they change to 3D
8/30/2008 2:58:04 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - And why are you telling me this?
8/30/2008 2:58:12 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - Your opinion is a moot point as far as I'm concerned.
8/30/2008 2:58:18 AM Avenged Chaos - Because ur in a Group!
8/30/2008 2:58:27 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - A "group"?
8/30/2008 2:58:28 AM Avenged Chaos - That removes ruipped games
8/30/2008 2:58:31 AM Avenged Chaos - ripped
8/30/2008 2:58:39 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - Your point?
8/30/2008 2:58:51 AM Avenged Chaos - It shoukd be the owners fault to even trust someone with coding ayway....
8/30/2008 2:59:11 AM Avenged Chaos - And When It Is Just tell MasterDan
8/30/2008 2:59:23 AM Avenged Chaos - Or SSJX
8/30/2008 2:59:28 AM Avenged Chaos - SSGX
8/30/2008 2:59:43 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - It is partially their fault. It's also the fault of lazy kids with no talent who rely on ripped sources because all they want in a game is power.
8/30/2008 3:00:07 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - So they download a source, and change the GMs so they can control everyone who plays and abuse to their hearts' content.
8/30/2008 3:00:08 AM Avenged Chaos - Some peolple want that while others want....
8/30/2008 3:00:19 AM Avenged Chaos - Yea I saw this game
8/30/2008 3:00:26 AM Avenged Chaos - It wasnbt edited AT ALL
8/30/2008 3:00:31 AM Avenged Chaos - Just the Admin Tab
8/30/2008 3:00:40 AM Avenged Chaos - I was surprised how they were s stupid
8/30/2008 3:00:42 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - The majority of rips are just like that.
8/30/2008 3:00:56 AM Avenged Chaos - I am talking about rips that change into a different game...
8/30/2008 3:01:03 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - Listen.
8/30/2008 3:01:06 AM Avenged Chaos - Yea those games need to be removed...
8/30/2008 3:01:15 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - Listen to me.
8/30/2008 3:01:31 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - If you want to play ripped games and you feel they're so great, that's fine. You have a right to your opinion.
8/30/2008 3:01:41 AM Avenged Chaos - Well
8/30/2008 3:01:53 AM Avenged Chaos - Since those games are removed by some childsih ppl I cant anymore...
8/30/2008 3:02:00 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - However, I have a right to mine as well. And my opinion is that I prefer original material composed of hard work, rather than games that rely on stealing.
8/30/2008 3:02:41 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - And being "childish" has nothing to do with removing games from a guild. The fact is, if you consider not promoting stealing to be childish, that's your business.
8/30/2008 3:02:48 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - The games aren't being removed from BYOND.
8/30/2008 3:02:54 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - They're being removed from BYOND Anime.
8/30/2008 3:02:59 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - Which means they'll be guildless.
8/30/2008 3:03:04 AM Avenged Chaos - Yea BYIND Anime makes em easier to find
8/30/2008 3:03:04 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - They'll still be playable.
8/30/2008 3:03:23 AM Avenged Chaos - Its all everyine has some "Milk"
8/30/2008 3:03:39 AM Avenged Chaos - Some peole dont have any but since alot of people do they just shut down the store
8/30/2008 3:03:40 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - So if you're worrying about your precious rips, you can easily bookmark their url or bookmark the memberpage of the owner.
8/30/2008 3:03:46 AM Avenged Chaos - Thats exactly wat ur doin
8/30/2008 3:04:19 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - The goal isn't to crack down on ripping if that's what you're afraid of.
8/30/2008 3:05:08 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - BYOND Anime has over 1000 games due to all of the ripped content people put out. The reason they're being removed from the guild is that the guild reached it's maximum amount of games and no more submissions can be made because of it.
8/30/2008 3:05:49 AM Avenged Chaos - Why dont u just not let people make hub without hostin em??
8/30/2008 3:05:56 AM Avenged Chaos - Thats a good idea Pssh
8/30/2008 3:05:58 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - Therefore, the problem has to be fixed, and the source of the problem is the fact that so many people use STOLEN sources to "create" games or rather to give themselves power.
8/30/2008 3:06:31 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - Actually, that's not a good idea because:
1. Can't stop people from making hubs
2. Not everyone has a 24/7 host so games can only be hosted but so much.
8/30/2008 3:06:39 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - So your "good idea" is just a flop.
8/30/2008 3:06:46 AM Avenged Chaos - Well...
8/30/2008 3:06:49 AM Avenged Chaos - Uhh
8/30/2008 3:07:03 AM Avenged Chaos - You can easily have a Hosting policy
8/30/2008 3:07:06 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - Look, I don't know why you're bothering to argue with me about this. Alot of games are being removed, and you complaining to me about it isn't going to change that.
8/30/2008 3:07:09 AM Avenged Chaos - Saying HOST OR ITS REMOVED
8/30/2008 3:07:15 AM Avenged Chaos - keep track of hubs made
8/30/2008 3:07:21 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - Too much work.
8/30/2008 3:07:26 AM Avenged Chaos - Delete if thye are not hosted within dayz
8/30/2008 3:07:37 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - We're not going to sit down at our computers 24/7 and check what's being hosted and what's not.
8/30/2008 3:07:43 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - It's just not going to happen.
8/30/2008 3:07:45 AM Avenged Chaos - TOO MUCH WORK????
8/30/2008 3:07:50 AM Avenged Chaos - TOOO MUCH WORK>?????
8/30/2008 3:07:58 AM Avenged Chaos - Are u seriopusly kidding or not???
8/30/2008 3:08:05 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - At any rate, this conversation is over. I don't really care to continue arguing with you about something that's NOT going to be changed no matter how much you complain about it.
8/30/2008 3:08:07 AM Avenged Chaos - Its ur job to do this your gettin money (tom)
8/30/2008 3:08:17 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - I'm NOT Tom.
8/30/2008 3:08:25 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - I'm not associated with Tom, and I don't get money for doing this.
8/30/2008 3:08:29 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - As I said before.
8/30/2008 3:08:37 AM Avenged Chaos - No I was reffering to Tom
8/30/2008 3:08:58 AM Avenged Chaos - He doesnt care about issues???
8/30/2008 3:09:09 AM Avenged Chaos - Then this is something that belongs in the forums
8/30/2008 3:09:40 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - Listen, you can rant all you want to me. It's not going to change so I'm not going to bother continuing this nonsense. If you want to continue typing, that's fine. I'll be busy working on my game and doing something productive, unlike the 5000 rip owners out there who rely on a source, because I actually have enough talent to do so.
8/30/2008 3:09:43 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - Later.
8/30/2008 3:10:12 AM Avenged Chaos - Like U have Talent Ur Cions SUCK (as I see In ur defult)
8/30/2008 3:10:16 AM Avenged Chaos - So SHUT UP
8/30/2008 3:10:29 AM Avenged Chaos - Take down the vocab its a weekend and good day
8/30/2008 3:10:32 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - Listen, I don't care about your opinion.
8/30/2008 3:10:43 AM Avenged Chaos - Im not expessin
8/30/2008 3:10:49 AM Avenged Chaos - Im tellin u wats right
8/30/2008 3:10:55 AM Avenged Chaos - THATS IT
8/30/2008 3:11:02 AM Klâ¬pTÃ¸ Da GÃ¸DÂ® - And seeing as you want to continue battling, I'm blocking you. Good bye. Feel free to make a blog about this, as I'm sure a child like yourself will.
8/30/2008 3:11:05 AM Avenged Chaos - 3-D GAME COMING ON BYOND THE FIRST EVER!!!!!!!!!