Open sourcing poll in Zen

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Aug 15 2012, 4:43 pm
Zen by Yut Put
Survive with your pals, build a house, and get eaten by werebunnies.
100 fans · Created Jul 31 2012

Poll: Should Zen be open source?

Yes 71% (62)
No 28% (25)

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I'd like to make Zen open source to allow free modifications from the users that could be hosted and distributed on the hub.

To cut to the chase:

(some) PROS:
-Availability of mods
-Better chance that this game will last longer
-Mods can be hosted on the central hub no different than vanilla versions
-Mods can be flexible
-Mods can easily be shared and distributed on the forum

(and some) CONS:
-Poorly programmed source already(I took a lot of shortcuts here and there are some ridiculous things that should be modular which aren't)
-Updates will bug up existing mods
-Low quality mods, which could degrade game-play and possibly increase lag
-Inconsistent art styles
-Less careful design, sloppy design, etc(Design that is unlike the design which I have implemented before open sourcing)


"Ripping" is out of the question here because users will not be permitted to create their own hubs for their mods and therefore a mod that isn't hosted on the main hub is still just a mod.
#1 Aug 15 2012, 4:44 pm
oh well I didnt read it all I just voted no but I see that you noted people cant make there own hub.
#2 Aug 15 2012, 5:09 pm
Your con seems stronger than your pros and guess work on what each thing do from the many shortcuts you take sounds to be more troublesome than it is. But I put yes because I would LOVE to see a variety of what people could do with what you have. =D Maybe a mix with icon builder mechanics, or something with a bit of rogue-like, like a cave you could dig and raid then surface to build before a counter siege commence.
#3 Aug 15 2012, 5:24 pm
You've basically answered your own question here. You said "there will be mods" then right below it mentioned that all of them will be buggy, low quality, inconsistent mods with sloppy design. If I thought people would do that with one of my games, I simply wouldn't open source it and don't know why anyone else would either.

Although that could be avoided by just giving the source to certain people you know have a brain as opposed to making it accessible to everyone.
#4 Aug 15 2012, 5:44 pm
Unless I'm mistaken, a hub password only allows those servers to be visible on the hub. You could hand out hub password to mods that are acceptable, while keeping the others hidden. You could also have a forum for people to host their servers hidden, but still share it so players can try it out, view it's progression, etc, etc. Then again, it has to actually have a certain level of success to bother with any of that.
#5 Aug 15 2012, 5:50 pm
Considering you love text-parsing so much, why don't you add some kind of scripting (and a tutorial) to let people include their own buildings and items? It'd be interesting to see how you do it, and you don't have to show off your horribly ugly code.
#6 Aug 15 2012, 6:20 pm
I think it's a matter of your future as the developer of the game.

If you plan to continue to develop the game, making it open source would be a little wacky.

However, if you plan to abandon the game, open-sourcing would be interesting.
#7 Aug 15 2012, 7:49 pm
In response to Megablaze (#4)
Megablaze wrote:
Then again, it has to actually have a certain level of success to bother with any of that.

In which area?

#8 Aug 15 2012, 7:53 pm
In response to Yut Put (#7)
Yut Put wrote:
Megablaze wrote:
Then again, it has to actually have a certain level of success to bother with any of that.

In which area?


Number of players and how long they actually spend playing the game.
#9 Aug 15 2012, 8:26 pm
Oh. Well it's accumulating a decent amount of fans and has been on the front page for a week or two now so I'm sure there are enough players to contribute to this. I'm also hoping that this would potentially increase the existing player base
#10 Aug 15 2012, 8:27 pm
In response to ExPixel (#8)
ExPixel wrote:
Yut Put wrote:
Megablaze wrote:
Then again, it has to actually have a certain level of success to bother with any of that.

In which area?


Number of players and how long they actually spend playing the game.

They would have to dabble through them until they find the theme and mechanic they like best. With diversity, they'll bound to find a server to make their home and it's better than a fixed setting and gameplay.
#11 Aug 16 2012, 10:45 pm
My word on this: If your done developing this (T_T) fine.
If your not, then also fine.

If you think minecraft, mods are still out on its full release and before its release they were theres.
Just change it to make it easier to mod on. I mean, just DONT give out the hub password to anyone or anything. Just make it moddable.
#12 Aug 16 2012, 10:51 pm
In response to TikTik (#11)
TikTik wrote:
My word on this: If your done developing this (T_T) fine.
If your not, then also fine.

If you think minecraft, mods are still out on its full release and before its release they were theres.
Just change it to make it easier to mod on. I mean, just DONT give out the hub password to anyone or anything. Just make it moddable.

If the source is released , the Hub password should be included. There isn't a reason the "modded/edited" games need a separate Hub. And the easier "modding" part can be done by the "editor" :P
#13 Aug 17 2012, 3:54 am
Can't wait to add in super saiyan and the dragonballs.
#14 Aug 17 2012, 8:01 am
In response to Falcon lazorz (#13)
Falcon lazorz wrote:
Can't wait to add in super saiyan and the dragonballs.

And I'll add in charmander and a few pokeballs , this will be amazing.
#15 Aug 17 2012, 11:12 am
Count one of the NO's as a YES. I misclicked.
#16 Aug 17 2012, 8:25 pm
I would love to be able to mod it up :D, Please make it open-source, Also it would be better to make it open-source cause then your coding wont just end up getting forgotten and wasted.
#17 Aug 18 2012, 8:08 am
None of these imbeciles could make a successful version of Zen.
#18 Aug 18 2012, 8:10 am
In response to Vrocaan (#17)
Vrocaan wrote:
None of these imbeciles could make a successful version of Zen.

Maybe with your skill. (:
#19 Aug 18 2012, 8:11 am
In response to Kozuma3 (#18)
Kozuma3 wrote:
Vrocaan wrote:
None of these imbeciles could make a successful version of Zen.

Maybe with your skill. (:

I'm lazy, though.
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